1. You want me to accept the "grace of God" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to be), so I can THEN believe in your particular psychotic God. However, it's perfectly obvious that you need to believe in the FIRST place before you try to do something like that. You've got it all backwards.
2. When I said that I need a good reason to accept this "grace of God", you said that I would see it if I did so. Well, as a Christian (and a batshit insane one at that), you must've accepted it, and so should be able to tell me, but apparently you aren't.
3. I don't believe you deserve burn in Hell for all eternity, whereas you DO believe that the other way around. Who's got the upper hand on charity now, motherfucker?
4. According to 1 Corinthians 13:13, love is more important than faith. This clearly implies that it's more important to be a good human being than to believe in Jesus.
Again, fuck you, trying to blackmail me with your unreasonableness and mental gymnastics.
You do not need to believe first; you need to try to and want to believe. Once you've done that, then you can accept the grace of God, and then believe.
As you can see by how this discussion has gone, we can see that you would have rejected all of it anyway, since you cannot see it.
Rejecting reality does not make you more charitable. It only makes you ignorant. Hell is real, and it is what the Bible claims it to be. Whether you like that or not does not matter, since you have no power to change it.
Charity is more important than faith and hope, but they are all important to get to Heaven. Lack of any of those is a mortal sin.
I'm not trying to blackmail you; I am only stating the truth. Don't use a word that you don't know the definition of. I am not trying to defame you in any way.
For someone who claims to not like this conversation, you seem to really want to continue it.
Christians, do you believe decent non-Christians will go to Hell forever?
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Four more things that I'd forgotten to mention:
1. You want me to accept the "grace of God" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to be), so I can THEN believe in your particular psychotic God. However, it's perfectly obvious that you need to believe in the FIRST place before you try to do something like that. You've got it all backwards.
2. When I said that I need a good reason to accept this "grace of God", you said that I would see it if I did so. Well, as a Christian (and a batshit insane one at that), you must've accepted it, and so should be able to tell me, but apparently you aren't.
3. I don't believe you deserve burn in Hell for all eternity, whereas you DO believe that the other way around. Who's got the upper hand on charity now, motherfucker?
4. According to 1 Corinthians 13:13, love is more important than faith. This clearly implies that it's more important to be a good human being than to believe in Jesus.
Again, fuck you, trying to blackmail me with your unreasonableness and mental gymnastics.
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You do not need to believe first; you need to try to and want to believe. Once you've done that, then you can accept the grace of God, and then believe.
As you can see by how this discussion has gone, we can see that you would have rejected all of it anyway, since you cannot see it.
Rejecting reality does not make you more charitable. It only makes you ignorant. Hell is real, and it is what the Bible claims it to be. Whether you like that or not does not matter, since you have no power to change it.
Charity is more important than faith and hope, but they are all important to get to Heaven. Lack of any of those is a mortal sin.
I'm not trying to blackmail you; I am only stating the truth. Don't use a word that you don't know the definition of. I am not trying to defame you in any way.
For someone who claims to not like this conversation, you seem to really want to continue it.