Maybe the man should go out a find a woman that will not manipulate him, rather than subjecting himself to the manipulation of a woman that is obviously not nearly the adult required to solve one's problems without having to use their vagina as a hostage and leverage.
If a man can not identify that a woman that withholds affection rather than growing up and solving a problem is obviously not a worthy wife, mother or companion, then I fault none but his own judgement. If a woman can see men as disposable and a woman is willing to "dump his ass" for any reason of her own, a man should be able to "dump her ass" and shop for a new model if the woman he is with insists on childish behavior.
In case you have not noticed, men also have power and free will and feet that can walk away. To allow oneself to be manipulated by one's own primal urges are a weakness, not one that I pity anyone for having. Especially if they have a right hand. Mine has served me pretty well over the years.
Equality. Men have the ability to take power and control over their relationships. If you want to talk about male empowerment, talk about what they should do for themselves, not what women need to quit doing to them as the focal point of your argument here.
@OP if you may have noticed, I edited this quite a bit as I am having trouble with my typing and articulation tonight. Pay no heed. This is probably not relevant to the argument at all. I just feel that the concept that "manipulation" in the form of sex even being plausible as a one-sided deal is not entirely valid.
I still agree with you, ItDuz, although I don't think that introducing the concept of sexual manipulation was too good of a representation of female manipulation, so much as it is exploitation of male weakness and lack of proper reasoning skills and does not contribute to your cause.
You say this assuming that poeple know when they are being munipulated this is not always the case . The key to most poeple when they munipulate others is to not let them know that you are doing it and sometimes if someone is doing this and you can tell you will not always be able to stop it or get out of it . You do not give the munipulator enough credit you act like its a thing you can control you miss the piont of munipulation . You ovbiously have never encountered one of these poeple often when they do this you do not realize they are doing it and if they are good enough and you are able to catch it you still might now be able to get out . You apperently do not know what a mindgame is or how it works and you do not understand human behavior at all .
Of course the possibility that some of us are not stupid enough to keep from putting ourselves in a situation in which our needs would be use against us by someone that is morally corrupt for the purpose of gain, unless we're talking about manipulation on a societal level.
Introspection and analysis of the situation that one is in often remedies the act of manipulation, as well as capacity to make one's own decisions. Unless of course, you refute humanity's ability take such power into their own hands. If that is the case, my pity is yours.
Boys or girls which is more munipulative ?
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Maybe the man should go out a find a woman that will not manipulate him, rather than subjecting himself to the manipulation of a woman that is obviously not nearly the adult required to solve one's problems without having to use their vagina as a hostage and leverage.
If a man can not identify that a woman that withholds affection rather than growing up and solving a problem is obviously not a worthy wife, mother or companion, then I fault none but his own judgement. If a woman can see men as disposable and a woman is willing to "dump his ass" for any reason of her own, a man should be able to "dump her ass" and shop for a new model if the woman he is with insists on childish behavior.
In case you have not noticed, men also have power and free will and feet that can walk away. To allow oneself to be manipulated by one's own primal urges are a weakness, not one that I pity anyone for having. Especially if they have a right hand. Mine has served me pretty well over the years.
Equality. Men have the ability to take power and control over their relationships. If you want to talk about male empowerment, talk about what they should do for themselves, not what women need to quit doing to them as the focal point of your argument here.
@OP if you may have noticed, I edited this quite a bit as I am having trouble with my typing and articulation tonight. Pay no heed. This is probably not relevant to the argument at all. I just feel that the concept that "manipulation" in the form of sex even being plausible as a one-sided deal is not entirely valid.
I still agree with you, ItDuz, although I don't think that introducing the concept of sexual manipulation was too good of a representation of female manipulation, so much as it is exploitation of male weakness and lack of proper reasoning skills and does not contribute to your cause.
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I do hope you have resigned yourself to the fact that this discussion will almost certainly go nowhere.
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:D Si, senor.
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Godspeed, senorita.
You say this assuming that poeple know when they are being munipulated this is not always the case . The key to most poeple when they munipulate others is to not let them know that you are doing it and sometimes if someone is doing this and you can tell you will not always be able to stop it or get out of it . You do not give the munipulator enough credit you act like its a thing you can control you miss the piont of munipulation . You ovbiously have never encountered one of these poeple often when they do this you do not realize they are doing it and if they are good enough and you are able to catch it you still might now be able to get out . You apperently do not know what a mindgame is or how it works and you do not understand human behavior at all .
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Of course the possibility that some of us are not stupid enough to keep from putting ourselves in a situation in which our needs would be use against us by someone that is morally corrupt for the purpose of gain, unless we're talking about manipulation on a societal level.
Introspection and analysis of the situation that one is in often remedies the act of manipulation, as well as capacity to make one's own decisions. Unless of course, you refute humanity's ability take such power into their own hands. If that is the case, my pity is yours.