Mentally ill people can all be startling. Im not meaning what i said in a bigot type way. Its just my opinion mate. I believe anyone who is mentally ill deserves treatment. I believe that transgender people are suffering from gender dysphoria. Its not much different than those people who believe they are animals trapped in human bodies. We should not indulge unhealthy behavior or hormone treatments when there are other ways. Dont jump the gun you knobber.
The difference between transgenders and asshats who think they're kanines, is the simple fact that sex is decided by a tiny little chromosome at the beginning of conception. Throughout development that tiny little nugget of a human gets bombarded by a whole cocktail of hormones which effects everything YOU use to determine at a glance if a person is a guy or a girl, and shit can get fucked sideways if the slides fall right. Explain fucking hermaphrodites, my friend. Define that with your little terms.
No matter what crazy bullshit that happens in the womb NO HUMAN COMES OUT A FUCKING DOG.
So yes, maybe MAYBE being transgender is a mental disorder, and maybe in the future we'll figure out a better way to deal with it but right now, this is all we fuckin' got. Not everyone goes through and does surgeries. Some people do fucking "tough it through" like you imagine they should, but it's not a fuckin cure. None of it is a cure. You wanna help? Get off "Is it normal" and research this shit. Find a better way.
By the way I completely appreciate your use of Knobber. That shit is hot.
I will leave it to the experts to find a "better way" rather than just indulge the mentally ill individuals delusions with harmful and unnatural hormone therapies and surgery.
Did you every read about the man who believed he was a cat and he spent thousands of dollars to have tattoos and surgeries to help transform himself into one. He literally had plastic surgery and all that shite. He looked like a fucking cat and acted like one. My point is that guy was mentally sick. He made it into ripleys believe it or not and other similar freak shows. That guy ended up commiting suicide recently because he was not satisfied with his identity. He should have been recieving help for his delusional behavior rather than mutilating his body to mimic a cat. You see the point i am trying to make here mate?
I swear my response absolutely fucked off for some reason. Whatever I'll re-write it.
Let me reiterate that in no circumstance whatsoever has a cat or a dog or a sea mollusk been actually born from the womb of a human being. No matter how you look at that people who come to the conclusion they were supposed to be born a different species are mental, or seeking attention.
That doesn't even make physical sense at that rate you'd have to be thinking that it's a spiritual mix up or someshit.
I don't deny that being transgender could be a similar mental issue but at goddamn least you can reach a possible cause that isn't "Oh my spirit is just different, mang". Idk like the level of testosterone and estrogen introduced during early development, yeah? People expect that might have a hand in sexuality and outward gender expression. Don't quote me on that though, as I tend to say in every argument, I am literally just an internet idiot. Research that shit, send me a link to the journal too, Idc.
Regardless, what sort of help are you suggesting we get? Counseling? Therapy? Group meetings? Done and done. The majority of us(the ones with enough money and insurence to pay for it) Go for regular meetings for mental health. You want us to seek jesus or something or speak to someone who specifically says. "Stop fucking around" and sends us home. I don't get it.
In the end every person has their own freedom to do whatever the fuck they want with their own body. Women can get tit jobs, men can screw up their dicks with those penis enlargement machines, people can get tattoos, plastic surgery, sharpen their teeth to look like animals. As fucked up as you or I think it might be, it's their own body in the end.
But you know what, mate. Its not that I totally disagree with you, in fact if there is research to back up what you're saying I say go ahead and spread it. If there is some other way other than surgeries and counseling, spot on, I'm sure some of us would give it a go. Spread the info, man. Give us links and people to speak to about it. Let's do it.
Otherwise as one internet idiot to another, people are going to do what feels best. Some are going to fuck up and regret it. Some are going to do nothing at all and rot in their own minds. Best case is to go slowly and reason well no matter what your decision is. Know the risks, know the possible outcomes, know that none of it is a cure, it's staving off the symptoms, but sometimes even that is worth it.
Believe me I understand the point you're trying to make I just don't think it's valid. Again. Cats don't come out of human wombs. Guys do, ladies do. People who prefer to not be bound by pety titles do. Whether or not it's OK that people go for surgeries, Idk. I think people should have the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies. Cat-dude had that freedom, ladies who get tit jobs have that freedom. Transgender people have that freedom. Until we have the research to provide a different way to solve the problems transgender people have, idk what you want from us. "Help" what help you do you expect is going to solve it, most of us already seek psychological therapy, counseling, group counseling etc. Idk what you imagine is happening when someone comes out as transgender. We're not just sitting on our thumbs and going to the surgeon right off. We talk about this we mull it over, we consider the risks, the dangers, the options that we have at hand, go for tests, and search within ourselves before ANYTHING happens.
And yeah you think all of us don't hear that you think it's mutilation, that we might think it's mutilation in the end, that in the end our suicide chance might just go up and it'll be all for nothing? I'm pretty sure every single one of us has heard that at some point. You don't think people are adding that to their consideration?
Basically what I'M trying to say is, thanks for your input. Some more decisions made will be made more informed, but you really can't make that decision.
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Mentally ill people can all be startling. Im not meaning what i said in a bigot type way. Its just my opinion mate. I believe anyone who is mentally ill deserves treatment. I believe that transgender people are suffering from gender dysphoria. Its not much different than those people who believe they are animals trapped in human bodies. We should not indulge unhealthy behavior or hormone treatments when there are other ways. Dont jump the gun you knobber.
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The difference between transgenders and asshats who think they're kanines, is the simple fact that sex is decided by a tiny little chromosome at the beginning of conception. Throughout development that tiny little nugget of a human gets bombarded by a whole cocktail of hormones which effects everything YOU use to determine at a glance if a person is a guy or a girl, and shit can get fucked sideways if the slides fall right. Explain fucking hermaphrodites, my friend. Define that with your little terms.
No matter what crazy bullshit that happens in the womb NO HUMAN COMES OUT A FUCKING DOG.
So yes, maybe MAYBE being transgender is a mental disorder, and maybe in the future we'll figure out a better way to deal with it but right now, this is all we fuckin' got. Not everyone goes through and does surgeries. Some people do fucking "tough it through" like you imagine they should, but it's not a fuckin cure. None of it is a cure. You wanna help? Get off "Is it normal" and research this shit. Find a better way.
By the way I completely appreciate your use of Knobber. That shit is hot.
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I will leave it to the experts to find a "better way" rather than just indulge the mentally ill individuals delusions with harmful and unnatural hormone therapies and surgery.
Did you every read about the man who believed he was a cat and he spent thousands of dollars to have tattoos and surgeries to help transform himself into one. He literally had plastic surgery and all that shite. He looked like a fucking cat and acted like one. My point is that guy was mentally sick. He made it into ripleys believe it or not and other similar freak shows. That guy ended up commiting suicide recently because he was not satisfied with his identity. He should have been recieving help for his delusional behavior rather than mutilating his body to mimic a cat. You see the point i am trying to make here mate?
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I swear my response absolutely fucked off for some reason. Whatever I'll re-write it.
Let me reiterate that in no circumstance whatsoever has a cat or a dog or a sea mollusk been actually born from the womb of a human being. No matter how you look at that people who come to the conclusion they were supposed to be born a different species are mental, or seeking attention.
That doesn't even make physical sense at that rate you'd have to be thinking that it's a spiritual mix up or someshit.
I don't deny that being transgender could be a similar mental issue but at goddamn least you can reach a possible cause that isn't "Oh my spirit is just different, mang". Idk like the level of testosterone and estrogen introduced during early development, yeah? People expect that might have a hand in sexuality and outward gender expression. Don't quote me on that though, as I tend to say in every argument, I am literally just an internet idiot. Research that shit, send me a link to the journal too, Idc.
Regardless, what sort of help are you suggesting we get? Counseling? Therapy? Group meetings? Done and done. The majority of us(the ones with enough money and insurence to pay for it) Go for regular meetings for mental health. You want us to seek jesus or something or speak to someone who specifically says. "Stop fucking around" and sends us home. I don't get it.
In the end every person has their own freedom to do whatever the fuck they want with their own body. Women can get tit jobs, men can screw up their dicks with those penis enlargement machines, people can get tattoos, plastic surgery, sharpen their teeth to look like animals. As fucked up as you or I think it might be, it's their own body in the end.
But you know what, mate. Its not that I totally disagree with you, in fact if there is research to back up what you're saying I say go ahead and spread it. If there is some other way other than surgeries and counseling, spot on, I'm sure some of us would give it a go. Spread the info, man. Give us links and people to speak to about it. Let's do it.
Otherwise as one internet idiot to another, people are going to do what feels best. Some are going to fuck up and regret it. Some are going to do nothing at all and rot in their own minds. Best case is to go slowly and reason well no matter what your decision is. Know the risks, know the possible outcomes, know that none of it is a cure, it's staving off the symptoms, but sometimes even that is worth it.
Believe me I understand the point you're trying to make I just don't think it's valid. Again. Cats don't come out of human wombs. Guys do, ladies do. People who prefer to not be bound by pety titles do. Whether or not it's OK that people go for surgeries, Idk. I think people should have the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies. Cat-dude had that freedom, ladies who get tit jobs have that freedom. Transgender people have that freedom. Until we have the research to provide a different way to solve the problems transgender people have, idk what you want from us. "Help" what help you do you expect is going to solve it, most of us already seek psychological therapy, counseling, group counseling etc. Idk what you imagine is happening when someone comes out as transgender. We're not just sitting on our thumbs and going to the surgeon right off. We talk about this we mull it over, we consider the risks, the dangers, the options that we have at hand, go for tests, and search within ourselves before ANYTHING happens.
And yeah you think all of us don't hear that you think it's mutilation, that we might think it's mutilation in the end, that in the end our suicide chance might just go up and it'll be all for nothing? I'm pretty sure every single one of us has heard that at some point. You don't think people are adding that to their consideration?
Basically what I'M trying to say is, thanks for your input. Some more decisions made will be made more informed, but you really can't make that decision.