The main reasons for animal culling is overpopulation (animal, not human!!) and nuisance. It's necessary so that the animals don't starve to death or cause trouble by attacking, or invading, people's property looking for food. They also cause a lot of accidents on the roads.
Nuisance meaning it ISN'T necessary to cull animals, only convenient to. I agree SOME are necessary as over-population does exist in some communities of animals, but SOME are also not, and are only because the animals are a "nuisance", as you put it yourself.
We're drifting from the topic by the way, and you have sort of not proved me wrong about the point I made in my original comment, which I presume was the purpose of your response :P
Well, it CAN mean necessary. For example, in farming. That's more what I meant by saying that, you probably thought I meant animals 'intruding' on people's space (and, no, I don't believe animals are intruding, we are actually intruding on their space really).
Everyone depends on farmers to provide food. If animals interfere with food production, then it's a nuisance that needs to be addressed. This can apply to predators that eat or just kill farm animals, and herbivores who just steal veggies or destroy crops. Also, spreading disease is an issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe I read that it's legal for farmers in England to own firearms to control nuisance animals. So....since no one else in England can own a gun, then it seems like it's a valid concern that farmers need to be able to take care of nuisance animals. Again, I may be wrong about the law, so my apologies if I am wrong, and please let me know if I am wrong about this law.
At the moment, there is a serious proposal to cull badgers in my corner of England. The reason given for this is that the badgers spread Bovine Tuberculosis, which kills cattle and screws up farming. However, most science says this is bullshit, badgers can't carry Bovine TB, and culling them would not stop the spread of the disease. Despite this, the cull will go ahead because the farming industry has such a large say in government here. Hence my suspicion of culling in general.
I agree that it is sometimes necessary for individual farmers to kill individual animals which pose a threat. But culls aren't that; they are the mass, organised killing of a set quota of a species in a region. Culls in the UK need to be passed by Parliament (the UK equivalent of Congress, which I'm sure you knew already), farmers can't take it upon themselves to kill animals unless there is an obvious reason which they can demonstrate as to why it was necessary to do so. Only if an bill is passed through Parliament which allows it can farmers kill animals of a protected species (which'll be most animals likely to pose a threat anyway) which do not individually pose an immediate threat.
I confess to not knowing the ins and outs of these sort of laws in England, regarding guns and shooting etc., but that is as I believe it to be, how the law stands.
Again, I point of that this line of discussion really hasn't got much to do with the actual question at all.
There is organized culls here too for farmers. Sometimes farmers just kill an animal here and there for being a nuisance (and that's generally OK when necessary), but then there's times like you described where it's an organized affair if a good number of farmers are being affected by a certain type of animal. Commonly it's wolves, just recently there's been discussion over
Just recently here a man got arrested for shooting a rabid raccoon. Well, not for shooting the coon, but for discharging a firearm within 500 feet of a dwelling. Funny thing is, it was HIS dwelling, no one else lives anywhere near him. He shot it because he had good suspicion it was rabid, and he has a dairy farm. He was protecting his cows. <a href="http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x141315282/Area-man-targets-D-A-with-signs-along-road" rel="nofollow">http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x141315282/Ar...</a>
Just a silly story, thought you might find it goofy. that man is a little crazy. He probably wouldn't have got in trouble if he wasn't such a prick.
Anyway, here's a story about a local (to me) meat donation organization.
Ah well, way off topic but who cares? And it's not just animals that can be invasive or nuisance. Plants and aquatic life can be detrimental too. There's some kind of algae that got introduced around here and there's all kinds of precautions you have to take when fishing to avoid it spreading from one body of water to another.
Are you a vegetarian? For what reason?
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Not all of them are. I'll admit some are, but not all. And I live in a rural area.
If that is the case, maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't change my central point.
Haha, doesn't matter! I'm not gonna troll you are a spelling error... I didn't even spot it! :P
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The main reasons for animal culling is overpopulation (animal, not human!!) and nuisance. It's necessary so that the animals don't starve to death or cause trouble by attacking, or invading, people's property looking for food. They also cause a lot of accidents on the roads.
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Nuisance meaning it ISN'T necessary to cull animals, only convenient to. I agree SOME are necessary as over-population does exist in some communities of animals, but SOME are also not, and are only because the animals are a "nuisance", as you put it yourself.
We're drifting from the topic by the way, and you have sort of not proved me wrong about the point I made in my original comment, which I presume was the purpose of your response :P
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Well, it CAN mean necessary. For example, in farming. That's more what I meant by saying that, you probably thought I meant animals 'intruding' on people's space (and, no, I don't believe animals are intruding, we are actually intruding on their space really).
Everyone depends on farmers to provide food. If animals interfere with food production, then it's a nuisance that needs to be addressed. This can apply to predators that eat or just kill farm animals, and herbivores who just steal veggies or destroy crops. Also, spreading disease is an issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe I read that it's legal for farmers in England to own firearms to control nuisance animals. So....since no one else in England can own a gun, then it seems like it's a valid concern that farmers need to be able to take care of nuisance animals. Again, I may be wrong about the law, so my apologies if I am wrong, and please let me know if I am wrong about this law.
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At the moment, there is a serious proposal to cull badgers in my corner of England. The reason given for this is that the badgers spread Bovine Tuberculosis, which kills cattle and screws up farming. However, most science says this is bullshit, badgers can't carry Bovine TB, and culling them would not stop the spread of the disease. Despite this, the cull will go ahead because the farming industry has such a large say in government here. Hence my suspicion of culling in general.
I agree that it is sometimes necessary for individual farmers to kill individual animals which pose a threat. But culls aren't that; they are the mass, organised killing of a set quota of a species in a region. Culls in the UK need to be passed by Parliament (the UK equivalent of Congress, which I'm sure you knew already), farmers can't take it upon themselves to kill animals unless there is an obvious reason which they can demonstrate as to why it was necessary to do so. Only if an bill is passed through Parliament which allows it can farmers kill animals of a protected species (which'll be most animals likely to pose a threat anyway) which do not individually pose an immediate threat.
I confess to not knowing the ins and outs of these sort of laws in England, regarding guns and shooting etc., but that is as I believe it to be, how the law stands.
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Well pardon me for going slightly off topic!!
There is organized culls here too for farmers. Sometimes farmers just kill an animal here and there for being a nuisance (and that's generally OK when necessary), but then there's times like you described where it's an organized affair if a good number of farmers are being affected by a certain type of animal. Commonly it's wolves, just recently there's been discussion over
Just recently here a man got arrested for shooting a rabid raccoon. Well, not for shooting the coon, but for discharging a firearm within 500 feet of a dwelling. Funny thing is, it was HIS dwelling, no one else lives anywhere near him. He shot it because he had good suspicion it was rabid, and he has a dairy farm. He was protecting his cows. <a href="http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x141315282/Area-man-targets-D-A-with-signs-along-road" rel="nofollow">http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x141315282/Ar...</a>
Just a silly story, thought you might find it goofy. that man is a little crazy. He probably wouldn't have got in trouble if he wasn't such a prick.
Anyway, here's a story about a local (to me) meat donation organization.
<a href="http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1083696521/Venison-program-distributes-2-000-pounds-of-meat-to-area" rel="nofollow">http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1083696521/V...</a>
Ah well, way off topic but who cares? And it's not just animals that can be invasive or nuisance. Plants and aquatic life can be detrimental too. There's some kind of algae that got introduced around here and there's all kinds of precautions you have to take when fishing to avoid it spreading from one body of water to another.