"function of the prostate and I'd hardly say it does very little! It's vital to reproduction!"
Where do you get this stuff? The prostatic secretion slightly increases the lifespan of sperm by reducing alkalinity in the vagina. I'd take a less than 1% reduction in sperm quality to not have that cancer time bomb. Prostate cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in men in the UK and second in the United States.
"our longer lifespan is "at fault" here."
Well that is true of many cancers. The presence of the prostate puts a hard limit on the life span men can have. Since it is almost certain to become cancerous just some men die before that can happen.
But it also controls urine flow and propels ejaculate. I was unable to find a source citing exactly how essential prostatic fluid is to sperm in terms of reproductive advantage. This information was either left out completely or not specified but its importance was implied as great in those sources that did mention it.
I still wouldn't say the prostate itself is either minor or inherently flawed.
"But it also controls urine flow"
No, that urine flow is controlled by the bladder wall muscles and sphincter. The prostate sometimes grow so large to prevent or limit urination but that is a process of its size pushing the urinary tract closed again due to it's inherent flaws. In a healthy male the prostate has no impact on urine flow.
"propels ejaculate"
No, that is muscles at the base of the penis. Their are men alive today without a prostate (due to cancer removal) that still ejaculate.
Seriously, I'm not trying to be rude, but are you making this up as you go along?
Yes, it propels ejaculate. It's not the only part that does, but it certainly does.
Well this has gone off track. Unless you're going to keep it on topic and answer the main points then don't bother. I gave a good answer to your prostate complaint which you have failed to really address, instead picking apart my choice of words and shit.
Not picking apart just pointing out your many errors. It's obvious you enjoy your ignorance and it is important to you that you continue being ignorant so I will leave you with it. Maybe you could find an echo chamber somewhere else? There are creationist forums where they would welcome your ignorance with open arms. You'd probably be happy there.
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"Yes, it propels ejaculate."
No it contracts enough to push ejaculate through itself but it is not a muscle, it cannot propel the ejaculate out. If it wasn't there it wouldn't need to contract just enough to push ejaculate through would it? as its "push" is only overcoming its own resistance. The fact that it doesn't prevent ejaculation normally is not a use or advantage. Sorry your point is laughable.
Ahem. You have made several errors and made an incredibly ignorant point about the prostate being "illogical".
" The prostate also contains some smooth muscles that help expel semen during ejaculation."
Prostatic fluid is beneficial to reproduction. FACT.
Reproduction is FAR more important than living past 65. This is just...obvious...All body parts have a point where they begin to decline. We are not made to last forever.
Yes it contains a tiny amount of smooth muscle to overcome the resistance it itself creates by being there. How is that helpful? Think about it, if it produces 75% of fairly useless addition to sperm then the resistance it generates by that addition is huge.
"Prostatic fluid is beneficial to reproduction."
By a minuscule amount. Negligible benefits for maximum risk of cancer, what a great organ.
"Reproduction is FAR more important than living past 65."
Well since males often stay partially fertile even at great age, reproduction would be helped by them being alive. And being alive is far more helpful to the reproductive process than the minuscule benefits offered by prostatic fluid, to quote you "This is just...obvious...".
"We are not made to last forever."
Seemingly we were made so that 1 in 6 men get prostate cancer. Whoever made us must be pretty cruel...
I should rephrase that. Inherently is the wrong word since the potential for cancer is itself inherent to the organ (as would be true with all types of cancer)...I'm trying to think of a better phrasing...
I guess...what I am saying is you're talking about the prostate as if it's the appendix. But the prostate has definite purpose, even though it can kill you...however it virtually never kills anyone prior to its logical life expectancy. There's nothing particulary illogical about the prostate or prostate cancer.
Are women more evolved biologically than men?
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"function of the prostate and I'd hardly say it does very little! It's vital to reproduction!"
Where do you get this stuff? The prostatic secretion slightly increases the lifespan of sperm by reducing alkalinity in the vagina. I'd take a less than 1% reduction in sperm quality to not have that cancer time bomb. Prostate cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in men in the UK and second in the United States.
"our longer lifespan is "at fault" here."
Well that is true of many cancers. The presence of the prostate puts a hard limit on the life span men can have. Since it is almost certain to become cancerous just some men die before that can happen.
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But it also controls urine flow and propels ejaculate. I was unable to find a source citing exactly how essential prostatic fluid is to sperm in terms of reproductive advantage. This information was either left out completely or not specified but its importance was implied as great in those sources that did mention it.
I still wouldn't say the prostate itself is either minor or inherently flawed.
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"But it also controls urine flow"
No, that urine flow is controlled by the bladder wall muscles and sphincter. The prostate sometimes grow so large to prevent or limit urination but that is a process of its size pushing the urinary tract closed again due to it's inherent flaws. In a healthy male the prostate has no impact on urine flow.
"propels ejaculate"
No, that is muscles at the base of the penis. Their are men alive today without a prostate (due to cancer removal) that still ejaculate.
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Yes, it propels ejaculate. It's not the only part that does, but it certainly does.
Well this has gone off track. Unless you're going to keep it on topic and answer the main points then don't bother. I gave a good answer to your prostate complaint which you have failed to really address, instead picking apart my choice of words and shit.
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Not picking apart just pointing out your many errors. It's obvious you enjoy your ignorance and it is important to you that you continue being ignorant so I will leave you with it. Maybe you could find an echo chamber somewhere else? There are creationist forums where they would welcome your ignorance with open arms. You'd probably be happy there.
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"Yes, it propels ejaculate."
No it contracts enough to push ejaculate through itself but it is not a muscle, it cannot propel the ejaculate out. If it wasn't there it wouldn't need to contract just enough to push ejaculate through would it? as its "push" is only overcoming its own resistance. The fact that it doesn't prevent ejaculation normally is not a use or advantage. Sorry your point is laughable.
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Ahem. You have made several errors and made an incredibly ignorant point about the prostate being "illogical".
" The prostate also contains some smooth muscles that help expel semen during ejaculation."
Prostatic fluid is beneficial to reproduction. FACT.
Reproduction is FAR more important than living past 65. This is just...obvious...All body parts have a point where they begin to decline. We are not made to last forever.
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Yes it contains a tiny amount of smooth muscle to overcome the resistance it itself creates by being there. How is that helpful? Think about it, if it produces 75% of fairly useless addition to sperm then the resistance it generates by that addition is huge.
"Prostatic fluid is beneficial to reproduction."
By a minuscule amount. Negligible benefits for maximum risk of cancer, what a great organ.
"Reproduction is FAR more important than living past 65."
Well since males often stay partially fertile even at great age, reproduction would be helped by them being alive. And being alive is far more helpful to the reproductive process than the minuscule benefits offered by prostatic fluid, to quote you "This is just...obvious...".
"We are not made to last forever."
Seemingly we were made so that 1 in 6 men get prostate cancer. Whoever made us must be pretty cruel...
I should rephrase that. Inherently is the wrong word since the potential for cancer is itself inherent to the organ (as would be true with all types of cancer)...I'm trying to think of a better phrasing...
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I guess...what I am saying is you're talking about the prostate as if it's the appendix. But the prostate has definite purpose, even though it can kill you...however it virtually never kills anyone prior to its logical life expectancy. There's nothing particulary illogical about the prostate or prostate cancer.