Well, I'm not being 100% scientifically "correct" in my wording and I do not purport to be an expert by any means. I am just making an observation that human females have some mysterious and illogical (not biologically necessary nor displayed in other animals) traits. And why is this so? Male humans are logical in the biological sense while females are not 100% explainable. Why do only human females have ALL of those 3 traits I pointed out and no other single mammal does (have ALL 3)?
They are positive adaptions, so they are really explainable. For a start, lots of women do have small breasts or completely flat chests. Large breasts exist because they are seen as attractive because they can indicate hormone levels, maturity, ability to breastfeed etc. They also have certain cultural connotations (like motherhood) which some men might find appealing. Orgasm is biologically useful because it creates an intense, positive mental association with sex. The more pleasurable sex is the more people have it the more people reproduce. Men just so happen to have a more all-in-one design for orgasm than women, which is important for men because all their stuff is outside :P Women have more "complicated" genitals because they're safely tucked away inside.
In terms of reproduction women have a lot more biological obligations than men; they have to carry the child and breastfeed. Men have very few biological obligations; they have to have sex and that's all. So their bodies can afford to be simpler, but that doesn't mean women's bodies are illogical. They have different design because they have different specification :P
It's possible that humans have different adaptations than other animals because human behaviour is controlled less by biological urges and more by social and cultural pressures and our of individual desires. Very few animals are as cultural and social as humans are, which makes human reproductive selection different to most animals.
Prominent =/= big. Human females, I believe (I have not found contrary evidence) , are the only mammals who store fat around the mammary gland.
Your argument sounds circular to me. "women have prominent breasts because men are attracted to promiment breasts because women have prominent breasts"
Orgasms. I can't really get behind the female incentive theory as it goes against biological and historical reality/sense. It assumes that hostorically females had enough choice in having sex to cause the clitoris to stick around or develop but I don't think that's very realistic. I have additional ideas related to this but I'm not quite ready to offer them yet...still in progress!
Of the three you stated only one is particularly odd:
-prominent breast while not lactating
There are other female primates enjoy sex and possess what is necessary to achieve orgasm. The only reason we don't know if they orgasm is that we can't ask them.
Other primates have hidden ovulation.
I do not believe a consensus explanation on why breasts in humans formed the way they did exists. A lot of our genetics is broken or illogical though so it is likely an accidental mutation. We still have the genes to grow a tail we just have other genes to tell us not to as an example.
Humans were down to a very small population at one point in time so that led to some abnormalities that could be one of them. Like our terrible jaw structure which is both not large enough for the adult set of teeth but also prone to disease. Could be a byproduct of being bipedal another thing that separates humans from mammals.
We can't go back in time to see that evolution happen so we may never know.
If prominent breasts are some kind of mutation then males must have developed the attraction over time (adapting to it) yet males haven't developed a defense against hidden ovulation. Odd, isn't it?
I was aware that some primates have the ability (or potential, anyway) to orgasm. I never said human females were the only animals who can. Just the fact that it's completely unnecessary-and the ability is EXTREMELY rare among mammals-is what's puzzling. And that human females are the only animals who have ALL 3 of the traits I listed. So it appears that human females, biologically, have some strange differences from all other animals, these differences having no biological purpose, while human males do NOT have such strangs differences from other male mammals.
Are women more evolved biologically than men?
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Well, I'm not being 100% scientifically "correct" in my wording and I do not purport to be an expert by any means. I am just making an observation that human females have some mysterious and illogical (not biologically necessary nor displayed in other animals) traits. And why is this so? Male humans are logical in the biological sense while females are not 100% explainable. Why do only human females have ALL of those 3 traits I pointed out and no other single mammal does (have ALL 3)?
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They are positive adaptions, so they are really explainable. For a start, lots of women do have small breasts or completely flat chests. Large breasts exist because they are seen as attractive because they can indicate hormone levels, maturity, ability to breastfeed etc. They also have certain cultural connotations (like motherhood) which some men might find appealing. Orgasm is biologically useful because it creates an intense, positive mental association with sex. The more pleasurable sex is the more people have it the more people reproduce. Men just so happen to have a more all-in-one design for orgasm than women, which is important for men because all their stuff is outside :P Women have more "complicated" genitals because they're safely tucked away inside.
In terms of reproduction women have a lot more biological obligations than men; they have to carry the child and breastfeed. Men have very few biological obligations; they have to have sex and that's all. So their bodies can afford to be simpler, but that doesn't mean women's bodies are illogical. They have different design because they have different specification :P
It's possible that humans have different adaptations than other animals because human behaviour is controlled less by biological urges and more by social and cultural pressures and our of individual desires. Very few animals are as cultural and social as humans are, which makes human reproductive selection different to most animals.
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You're so smart.
Prominent =/= big. Human females, I believe (I have not found contrary evidence) , are the only mammals who store fat around the mammary gland.
Your argument sounds circular to me. "women have prominent breasts because men are attracted to promiment breasts because women have prominent breasts"
Orgasms. I can't really get behind the female incentive theory as it goes against biological and historical reality/sense. It assumes that hostorically females had enough choice in having sex to cause the clitoris to stick around or develop but I don't think that's very realistic. I have additional ideas related to this but I'm not quite ready to offer them yet...still in progress!
You didn't say anything about hidden ovulation!
Thanks for the reply, by the way!
Of the three you stated only one is particularly odd:
-prominent breast while not lactating
There are other female primates enjoy sex and possess what is necessary to achieve orgasm. The only reason we don't know if they orgasm is that we can't ask them.
Other primates have hidden ovulation.
I do not believe a consensus explanation on why breasts in humans formed the way they did exists. A lot of our genetics is broken or illogical though so it is likely an accidental mutation. We still have the genes to grow a tail we just have other genes to tell us not to as an example.
Humans were down to a very small population at one point in time so that led to some abnormalities that could be one of them. Like our terrible jaw structure which is both not large enough for the adult set of teeth but also prone to disease. Could be a byproduct of being bipedal another thing that separates humans from mammals.
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If prominent breasts are some kind of mutation then males must have developed the attraction over time (adapting to it) yet males haven't developed a defense against hidden ovulation. Odd, isn't it?
I was aware that some primates have the ability (or potential, anyway) to orgasm. I never said human females were the only animals who can. Just the fact that it's completely unnecessary-and the ability is EXTREMELY rare among mammals-is what's puzzling. And that human females are the only animals who have ALL 3 of the traits I listed. So it appears that human females, biologically, have some strange differences from all other animals, these differences having no biological purpose, while human males do NOT have such strangs differences from other male mammals.