Are narcissists normally delusional?

Are people with NPD the delusional or not?

If they are why?

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  • Usually they hold themselves to a higher esteem than they actually are. So yes its delusional in that context.

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  • People are all different. I'm sure some know what they are doing and it's deliberate. I have also been around people who blame others for things they did and become vindictive and I could tell they truly believe what they are saying.

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  • Not all of them are the same.
    From what Ive noticed its more about a lack of empathy. Often times they can notice what they're doing is off but they dont care. If it doesnt effect them directly it doesnt matter to them.

    My neighbor growing up was one I think. He actually cared about his family but he didnt understand why anyone would care about other ppl. He considered ppl caring as being pussies. He would go through someones pockets as they slept even tho they've been really good to them and if you tried to talk them out of it theyd get mad and say u were such a pussy. You'd try to explain why its wrong and theyd just roll their eyes like you are being girly or something by caring.

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  • Yes.

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  • I think solipsism in general is delusional

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  • delusional? like crazy? I was crazy once they put me in a room a rubber room a rubber room with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in room a rubber room a rubber room with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in a room a rubber room a rubber room with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in a room a rubber room a rubber with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in a room a rubber room a rubber room with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in room a rubber room with rats rats? rats make me crazy I was crazy once they put me in a room a rubber room a rubber room with rats

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  • Nope, like whats already been said they are clever. However they are sort of delusional at the same time since they do not have a "normal" worldview and view of themselves.

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  • No. They’re very smart. May try to make you feel delusional.

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    • Uh some are are smart, plenty of them are incredibly stupid in all areas.

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      • I have read a lot of things from people who seem to make a lifestyle of complaining about a cluster b pd person who was abusive and often state they seemed normal for years.
        Being around people like that I don't see how it is not usually noticeable after a couple interactions that there is something profoundly disturbed about the persons behavior that is near obvious. I'm sure there are some geniuses but I think they are probably rare and people who are make those statements that they were tricked likely have a lot of issues themselves.

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        • Oh they could be smart and obvious. Intelligence and being conscientious, including socially, were found to have almost no correlation.

          You can act very put together and be a total moron vs highly intelligent while behaving impulsive and odd, or vice versa.

          What people are mistaking for smarts is a form of cunning that’s innate in personality types that have predatory kinds of tendencies. Not a thing overly reliant on any intellectual prowess, it’s just instinct they developed.

          Learning how to fool people face to face requires very little intelligence.

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    • Aww thank you

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