Right, but I believe you said you don't have any rights of any kind ("I do not believe in rights, therefore I do not have rights."), much as a facet of nature - a simple boulder - doesn't have any rights. How can a boulder have a child? How can it have anything?
If your wife wants the fetus to be aborted, what right do you have to stop her?
Even passing these questions - let's say she wants to have the fetus aborted and you don't. You disallow her from having an abortion on the grounds that SHE SHOULDN'T have the abortion because it will infringe on your "right" to the baby. Therefore, you are having an opinion on what she should or should not do based on your own interests, which is directly contradictory to the statement "- I do not have an opinion as to what other persons besides myself should and should not do."
I am exercising POWER, like the government, or the police. Rights has nothing to do with it. I would physically stop her from having an abortion. I think that adequately answers your question. I'm trying to make this as easy to understand as possible.
Because you don't want your wife to kill YOUR child.
(1) Doesn't this mean you have an opinion as to what a person besides yourself should or should not do, that is, you don't want your wife to kill YOUR child?
(2) Doesn't this mean you place your own values above your wife's (assuming she does in fact want to have an abortion)? That is to say, don't you expect your wife to be subservient to you by the use of your POWER? Aren't you thereby directly using authority over another human being? If you don't believe in human authority, then by what means are you to disallow her from having an abortion?
On a tangent of a point I deleted, I must say that if you don't believe in property rights, you really ought to stop using the word "MY", as in "MY child" or "MY firearms." If you don't have property rights, you don't own a damn thing.
Point number (2) in my post above is a serious lock-up for this philosophy. Let's say I want to kill you. Under your philosophy, that's fine, but I can imagine you'll have some backlash and try to fight me. But ah! What authority do you have to try and prevent me from killing you? Human authority of any type doesn't exist in this philosophy, therefore there is nothing you can do to stop me from doing what I want to do.
You are over thinking this. You cannot seem to understand the difference between POWER and AUTHORITY.
You fail to understand that authority does not need to have anything to do with actions. Go and ask a bobcat if he has the authority to murder a rabbit.
If a mother bear defends her cubs from assault, is it because she thinks that nobody has the authority to take her cubs from her? Or is she simply obeying instinct, and using what means she has to see her will done, whatever it be?
If a raccoon makes off with your picnic basket, is it because he thinks he has the right to? Or is he simply inclined to do whatever he wants to do, irrespective and unconscious of any moral implications?
If I was married, and prevented my wife from having an abortion, whether or not I believed that it was "wrong" would have nothing whatsoever to do with my success in preventing it. Authority has nothing to do with what occurs in the physical world.
Do you understand now? This is the world we live in. Power is real, authority is not. When an action is taken by a sentient creature, his success is dependent upon whether he has the power to accomplish it. Any thought process behind the scenes, such as the abstract notion of authority, is meaningless.
If you wanted to kill me, I would fight back because that is what I would want to do, not because I had the authority to. Survival and desire exist, authority does not.
Are my political stances normal?
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I don't want MY kids being murdered. Anyone else's, fine.
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Right, but I believe you said you don't have any rights of any kind ("I do not believe in rights, therefore I do not have rights."), much as a facet of nature - a simple boulder - doesn't have any rights. How can a boulder have a child? How can it have anything?
If your wife wants the fetus to be aborted, what right do you have to stop her?
Even passing these questions - let's say she wants to have the fetus aborted and you don't. You disallow her from having an abortion on the grounds that SHE SHOULDN'T have the abortion because it will infringe on your "right" to the baby. Therefore, you are having an opinion on what she should or should not do based on your own interests, which is directly contradictory to the statement "- I do not have an opinion as to what other persons besides myself should and should not do."
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Further, and in a separate thread, you have stated "- I do not believe in human authority."
If you disallow your wife from having an abortion... aren't you exercising authority over her and aren't you a human?
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I am exercising POWER, like the government, or the police. Rights has nothing to do with it. I would physically stop her from having an abortion. I think that adequately answers your question. I'm trying to make this as easy to understand as possible.
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This doesn't answer the full question.
Why are you using POWER?
Because you don't want your wife to kill YOUR child.
(1) Doesn't this mean you have an opinion as to what a person besides yourself should or should not do, that is, you don't want your wife to kill YOUR child?
(2) Doesn't this mean you place your own values above your wife's (assuming she does in fact want to have an abortion)? That is to say, don't you expect your wife to be subservient to you by the use of your POWER? Aren't you thereby directly using authority over another human being? If you don't believe in human authority, then by what means are you to disallow her from having an abortion?
On a tangent of a point I deleted, I must say that if you don't believe in property rights, you really ought to stop using the word "MY", as in "MY child" or "MY firearms." If you don't have property rights, you don't own a damn thing.
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Point number (2) in my post above is a serious lock-up for this philosophy. Let's say I want to kill you. Under your philosophy, that's fine, but I can imagine you'll have some backlash and try to fight me. But ah! What authority do you have to try and prevent me from killing you? Human authority of any type doesn't exist in this philosophy, therefore there is nothing you can do to stop me from doing what I want to do.
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You are over thinking this. You cannot seem to understand the difference between POWER and AUTHORITY.
You fail to understand that authority does not need to have anything to do with actions. Go and ask a bobcat if he has the authority to murder a rabbit.
If a mother bear defends her cubs from assault, is it because she thinks that nobody has the authority to take her cubs from her? Or is she simply obeying instinct, and using what means she has to see her will done, whatever it be?
If a raccoon makes off with your picnic basket, is it because he thinks he has the right to? Or is he simply inclined to do whatever he wants to do, irrespective and unconscious of any moral implications?
If I was married, and prevented my wife from having an abortion, whether or not I believed that it was "wrong" would have nothing whatsoever to do with my success in preventing it. Authority has nothing to do with what occurs in the physical world.
Do you understand now? This is the world we live in. Power is real, authority is not. When an action is taken by a sentient creature, his success is dependent upon whether he has the power to accomplish it. Any thought process behind the scenes, such as the abstract notion of authority, is meaningless.
If you wanted to kill me, I would fight back because that is what I would want to do, not because I had the authority to. Survival and desire exist, authority does not.