Are men natural givers?

Okay we've all heard that men love a chase but I began to put serious thought into it and I think in relationships men might prefer to be givers.

Some generalizations ahead, sorry.

At the start of a relationship men try hard. They make time for a lady, act chivalrous, pay for dinner, maybe give her flowers, even carry her, etc. Men can be REALLY nice. But in relationships once a lady repays all this kindness (try to make it even) she normally doesn't appeal to him. If she continues the "chase" the man normally keeps interest in her. Of course there are exceptions.

Some facts ahead.

In the wild, it's not uncommon for the male of some species to present something to the female of interest. When you look at evolution, humans have been around for 1 million - 700 thousand years. And for most of these years the man would hunt and give the food to his family. A lot of ancient texts (not just the bible) label men as providers. During sex, men normally do most of the work and are okay with that fact. Sex is one of those things where it's really clear that humans are still in touch with their instincts. And instinctively men want to give it and women receive.

So, when it comes to relationships/family are men natural givers? I understand it's the modern age but human DNA is still 1% away from a dolphin's, the need to give might be in their instincts. What do you think?

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  • 90% of food came from the gatherers, mostly because the old people, children and women would do that but even then we still provide more. But really it depends on the invidual and some people just aren't as in touch with their instics should we say.

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  • I tried hard for the two years my relationship lasted. I always showed and told her how much I loved her. I always tried to surprise her with gifts. I always stayed polite. Always tried to make her laugh, put her happiness before mine and anyone else. When we would argue, I never resorted to just walk away or yell or call names. I would have given her the moon if that's what she wanted. When she did do the same back for me, I really appreciated and loved it and wish I could have more. I don't know if men in general are natural givers but I think I am one that is a giver and I doubt it will change. Oh and I just read the comments above.. her pleausre always came first!

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    • Can I ask why the relationship didn't last? It sounded perfect.

      FAO Bryson-Willis.
      No I'm not a man-hater, I have the loveliest husband God ever put on this earth but I would say that over the years I have become more cynical. Every weekend, when I go out, I meet some girl in the ladies' bathroom crying about their husband clearing out the children's accounts, or having the house repossessed, etc etc. I'm truly so bored with it now, that I wish these women would grow a spine and grow up too. What did they honestly expect from these @ssholes? Maybe it's easier for us to see the big picture looking in at these relationships that are doomed. I dunno but it seems that some women are so desperate to be in a relationship that they marry the first fool that asks them.

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      • A thing called ''falling out of love''. Very terrible to hear it from the person who means everything to you. I always was very happy to have her by my side but you realise it even more how much that person meant to you when it's all over. Anyways, it happened recently and I'm trying to stay positive that I'll meet someone just as wonderful as she was and more. I learned from all the mistakes I made with her and hopefully the next one, I'll make sure to make her the happiest woman on earth. Sorry for the useless information that nobody probably cares about, just saying what was on my mind.

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        • :o( I'm sorry it didn't work out for you, but better it happened now than years down the line with children involved. I firmly believe that everything happens for the best, so I'm sure Miss Right is just waiting around the corner for you. Just be yourself.

          It always intrigues me as to what people actually argue about. I have been with my husband for 28 years and could count on one hand the number of arguments we have had - usually about him driving his motorbikes too fast!!

          Maybe my husband is a 'giver' because he would never ask how much something cost me....... Dunno, it's certainly food for thought!

          I was never a 'girlie' who dreamt of getting married, played with dolls or wore pretty dresses and I had already brought up my 4 siblings for my mom so was in no rush to have children. I was quite happy to have my freedom and would never have married anyone who planned to hold me back. I still can't really work out how I ended up married, I think it was to finance a mortgage but we had been going out 6 years, then waited 8 years before we even considered children. My husband also deals with all the trivial things in life that I neglect eg. cooking, car tax, insurance, cutting the grass, etc ;o)

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      • Okay I see where your coming from, but don't forget about men like your husband who are apparently doing a stunning job.

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      • Socially women are taught to settle. It's not quite true nowadays with equality, but not too long ago a woman was considered nothing without a man. Historically women have always been in a rush to hurry up and get married.

        Maybe these desperate girls have some instincts of their own that take over.

        I know I seemed pretty desperate in my first few relationships, but you grow up and learn better. (and learn to think a bit more like a man)

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  • I'm not sure if I can agree coz I know a lot of single moms and one gets 5 bucks a week off the father. Where is his desire to give / provide?

    Some give nothing!!

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    • I did say there were exceptions, but this man probably acted like a jerk because there was no longer a relationship. He might've been a jerk all along but on his best behavior during relationship.

      Which isn't ok. I still think he sounds like a bastard. I'm just look for logic in everything.

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  • I think a lot of men are providers not so much to "give" but for their own pride.

    They try hard in the beginning because they want sex and they know they have to put in at least some work to get it.

    People's motives are largely selfish, and that's a fact.

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  • Give too much and the girl loses respect. Same if the girl gives too much. The relationship has to built up slowly with ever large amounts of giving from both sides. If it gets skewed either way...that's the end of the relationship...and this doesn't just apply to non-platonic relationships

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  • Seducers don't need to buy a girl's love. That's something for the infamous "Mr. Nice Guy" you know, the one who finishes last.

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  • whoa...human dna is 1% away from a dolphins....dont you mean a chimpanzee

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  • oh yeah, men are givers, they sure are willing to give their meat away to any available vagina.

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  • *persuing

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  • Men are natural givers.

    OF COCK.

    They aren't giving their time, money and flowers for the sake of being generous. There's an ulterior motive behind it surely?

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  • we come out of girls vagina's. fuck u. girls and go to sperm bnks

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  • Also, there's sooooo many men that have kids and don't take care of them. How often do you see a mother that abandons her kids vs. a father?? There's a staggering amount more of single mothers raising kids alone than single fathers. There's tons of men in trouble and in jail for not paying child support, but that's not true for women. Yes, there's some, but nowhere near even a fraction of the amount of men. So what's up with that? Kinda blows the theory out of the water.

    Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of decent men around, but I think there's far more scumbags. Even decent men are largely selfish in many ways. My husband is a decent guy, always works and provides. But he tends to only do "nice" things or anything remotely thoughtful when he wants something or when he thinks I'm mad at him. In our whole marriage, I can't think of more than a few totally random nice thoughtful things he's done. He's also quite inconsiderate in many ways, which I can overlook because it's really "typical male behavior" (messy, etc) "Giving" is just not how guys think for the most part.

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  • Lastnite, I just came across a very good answer to this question. I recieved my Cosmopolitan magazine in the mail, and while looking through it at both the ads and the articles, and comparing them to, say, my husband's Maxim magazine, the answer is obvious.....<BR><BR>Cosmo has articles on decoding emotions in your man, making your man happy, giving him better sex, fun things to do with him. Ads include mens colognes and clothes, psychics to tell you how to make him come back. Romance stories. <BR><BR>Maxim....articles on how to pick up a chick. No articles on how to make sex better for her, nothing on improving your relationship. No, but there's articles on how to get away with cheating. Articles on how to shut her up, not how to figure out what's wrong or improve anything. No ads for thoughtful gifts for her, the only "gifts" really are sex aids/toys and lingerie (selfish gifts-they're not really for her, they're for him to enjoy mostly). No Q&amp;A section like in Cosmo, where women ask questions relating to improving their lives or figuring out relationships, no, the questions are about farts and explosions and bar tricks to get chicks in bed.<BR><BR>The answer is obvious. Of course, everyone is different but overall I think it's pretty obvious.

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    • Wait did you just compare a Maxim to a Cosmo O_o?!

      A Maxim is not our equivalent to your Cosmo. You would have been better with a copy of Men's Health or something.. I hate to tell you this, but what you picked up was a glorified porno.

      Most of these magazines both men and Women's mention the phrase 'study has found' as a cheap and quick pretext for shockingly erroneous, and sometimes dangerously misleading 'science'.

      Just as bad both Cosmo and Men's Health reduce the other partner to some sort of objects on which to apply "7 things that will...".

      We men are not sex obsessed simpletons, and you women are not ready bimbos waiting to fall for our latest 'pick-up' lines. These magz are really going to warp what you think the other gender, your health and most importantly yourself.

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      • Ha, a Maxim IS the age equivalent of a Cosmo...it's a young person's magazine. If you want to compare fitness magazines, then let's go. I'm sure you'll still lose. Fitness isn't Cosmo's MO or Maxim's. They are the equals for age group.

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        • Oh now we're talking age now... rolls_eyes. Right then choose a car magazine or playboy and let's 'go for it'.

          Ha!

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          • GQ is pretty good example

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  • Not always, depends on the person. This is just generalizing

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  • The person above sounds like a man hater but he/she almost has a point.

    It goes like this. At first we probably fall for the same same lovey dovey you women do. "She has a cute laugh, she's beautiful ..." so on so on. We usually want nothing more than to have that person as our girl friend or sometimes wife.

    Once we've got you as a girlfriend or whatever, it turns sexual faster than you can say "wth?!". from this point on we are driven by our member down below.

    Once we get sex, then comes the fork in the road. either she's just good for having fun(read:sex) with, or she becomes something we feel this stupid urge to protect and or provide for (read:give) ;-).

    now let's go back to the beginning. there are two types of guys, those who want to 'score' and those who genuinely want a partner. It's almost predictable which road they'll take at the fork.

    so not Everyman is the same, so not every is a giver. It also depends on the relationship, and of-course you. all I can guarantee is that if your man decides not to be a giver... you can't change him.

    PS: when we are having sex the last thing we are thinking about is giving, it's usually a primal domination thing going on, if anything were taking you, we enjoy your sounds of pleasure because it's like your submitting to our dominance.

    honesty, never simple, always shocking.

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    • Yes there's also sex but I'm pretty convinced that relationships based on sex don't count. We all know that there's meaningless sex out there, and it can be meaningless to both genders not just men.

      But that "stupid urge" that you might get is an instinct

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      • I beg to differ. Relationships can be based on sex in at least three situations.

        a) When non of the partners will want to admit it, we all want to hang on to a good thing right?

        b) When one of them knows it is and exploits the situation (could be either gender) but the other is still in 'clouds'.

        c) When it is a convenient arrangement. like when you know your co-worker is going out with the boss. he gets what he wants, so does she - it's a marriage made over the desk, the photocopy room, your desk ooh la la.. sorry I had the whole fantasy thing playing in my head. you should watch "the secretary" XD. anyway...

        I think maybe you wanted to say that it's not long term or healthy. But I should think if two people decide to stay together for whatever reason good or bad, then it is called a relationship. maybe not healthy, not good or long term but still a relationship.

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    • I'm not at all a man hater. I love men.

      But generousity is an unselfish act, and by giving to a girl, you are ersuing her.....for yourself.

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    • Uh, I think it's sexual before it gets to the girlfriend part, for the most part. Come on, are you telling me you don't think about nailing the girl waayyyy before you even ask her out?? Of course you do. It's just a matter of putting in the time and work to get to the sex part. I think you are driven by your member, so to speak, from the very beginning most of the time.

      I agree with you about the fork in the road, you either want to be with the person or they don't mean that much to you. But how a guy treats a girl that he WANTS to be with varies so much. For example, my parents-my dad doesn't feel an obligation to provide for his kids, and my mom has to practically beg him to pay some bills. But they've been married over 30 years and I don't doubt they love eachother.

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      • to your question, yeah I guess it can, but don't believe we go through our lives thinking with our penis as so many 'scientific' cosmo studies suggest. we are human beings you know ;)

        I can't claim to know your parents better than you, but I'm sure your dad does feel some obligation. His may not be as much as your mothers but I'm sure it's there.

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