Anyone else feel they are in the same boat as me?

For much of my life, I've felt very alienated. Talking to other people always felt like a chore or inconvenience. I rarely have a conversation in which I can relate, but in social surroundings, I'm compelled to add to the conversation. The majority of what I say in groups of people are careless ramblings. I feel as that's my way of entertaining myself. I often find myself in situations where things are so dull I feel I need to do something disruptive in order to make the drudgery bearable. People often think I'm hungry for attention and view me as somewhat of a clown when in reality I'm not trying to get anyone's attention; I'm trying to keep myself from going brain dead. I feel as though many classmates of mine view me as the guy whose always trying to be funny, causing them to disregard anything that comes out of my mouth. But when I actually feel the need to discuss what's truly on my mind, the people around me are always surprised by any amount of intelligence that they become so awe-struck that they don't even take what I say seriously. This led me to believe that this process started because of nobody really understanding what was on my mind in the first place, so at some point in my life I developed a way of coping with other people's lack of understanding. Now before you all think I have a superiority complex, I'm speaking of my actions in groups in which I don't truly relate to. (Mostly classmates. People who don't actually know the "real" me.) In my friend group however, I always have a strong need to speak my mind and engage in intellectual discussion. In classes where I don't have any friend to talk to, I always get trapped in some kind of complex thought while being able to process whatever we're learning. But if I get called on to answer anything, I'll sit there for an awkward few seconds and not be able to answer a simple question, as if I can't snap back to reality. It's annoying because this only reinforces everyone's idea of me being an unintelligent pothead when I know I was constructing ideas in my head that nobody in the room could even comprehend. Does anyone feel this way or have a similar way of dealing with misunderstanding? And do your coping mechanisms (Acting like a fool in large public groups/focusing all your attention towards personal thoughts in awkward surroundings) lead others to believe that you're unintelligent?

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  • dappled

    It's not how I feel right now, but that doesn't mean I can't relate as I've felt much of that. I felt very misunderstood from a young age. The seven year old me thought people were misunderstanding me on purpose. I later came to think I was perhaps using the wrong words and that by using words with very precise meanings (and little scope for misunderstanding) I would resolve the problem.

    It made the problem worse. People were still misunderstanding me and, worse, they didn't know what the words meant. I was a very naughty kid and I carried on being a naughty teenager. If I wasn't getting up to devilment (for my own amusement), I was playing pranks on people. Or I was making jokes or doing impressions or doing anything I could to make people laugh. When people were laughing, at least we were on the same page.

    The way I see the world, the way I think people should be treated, the way I think things work was within me from a very young age but, whenever I said it, people thought it was a trick or that I was lying or that I was setting them up for something. Or, I suppose, that I was stupid. I made two comments on IIN this year. Almost everyone who read them tried to make me feel stupid and that they couldn't possibly be true. Yet both were absolutely true (although they don't feel as if they should be true). People went off their feelings to decide fact. That's one of the things I struggle to understand about people.

    At 18, I crashed badly at university. I couldn't deal with people because I couldn't understand them and they most certainly couldn't understand me. Ashamed to admit it, but I think I thought people were stupid. After a year of isolation, I took to watching people. I reasoned that I was going to have to spend my life with them in some fashion, I may as well understand them and what drives them.

    I still think differently than most but I learned to translate (to an extent). And because it's translation, I still fail at times and people still misunderstand me. Some of this may come across as arrogance but I'm just trying to be honest.

    What upsets me at times is that nobody is speaking my language and the only way I can deal with them is speaking theirs. It makes what I say (and particularly what I write) look dull and mistranslated to me. Same as if I wrote this in French. I do speak some French but I'd make mistakes all over the place. That's how I feel with this.

    I'm not sure this is exactly what you meant, but this is how it is with me. If it helps in the slightest, great!

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    • flutterhigh

      Is this why it irritates you that my cleverness is mistaken for yours?
      Aren't you describing precisely what I do?
      Furthermore, haven't you reacted like that to me?

      Despite appearing pretty much antithetical to each other, we're rather similar.

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      • wigsplitz

        See I don't understand how people confuse you and dappled. Well, I do just because people are dumb and not very observant. So, that was pointless. I guess what I don't understand is, how people can stand to remain so dumb and unobservant.

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      • dappled

        We're not antithetical at all. We're more alike than either of us want to admit. I have no problem with that. I just want to get to a position where we're not picking at each other. You're a smart bloke and your comments make me laugh. But I hate not trusting you. I don't want to not trust you. And I don't want you to not trust me. I'm not trying to trick you into something. I'm being genuine. The offer is there. It's always been there. But I think we're both wary. I certainly am.

        I'd go for openness and honesty, though. It makes things easier. It makes for an easier life. But it also makes it easier for people to get a rise out of you. I guess that's the problem. If you want fairness, I'll play fair. If you want the benefit of the doubt, you can have it.

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        • flutterhigh

          Well, I pick at you because it amuses me and you can usually take it, and you pick at me because you're curious and I can usually take it. We're similar, but we've certainly chosen contradictory paths.

          Though I've never quite understood why you don't trust me with nothing at stake, or why you feel the need to do so at all. I may not be honest, but I'm open. I can't not be. All statements are confessions.

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          • dappled

            First paragraph: I don't think it's possible for you to be more right. You've got it completely. It's exactly how I feel.

            Second paragraph: We're at odds again. And I think we both think we are honest and are both arguing about that.

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            • flutterhigh

              Again, I'm not honest and never tried to be. You're honest. I'm open. All statements are confessions.

              I'm going to quote myself from that Sincerity poll, which I now see was never posted because the moderators don't enjoy my posts as much as I do. Maybe it's length; I'll repost. Anyway:

              "What does my name or age or sex have anything to do with the things I say? I don't hide those things behind my wit, everyone else hides their wit behind those things!"

              Also, I just realized our usernames are complementary colors.

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  • Dappled and Flutterhigh are fucking amazing.

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  • OCDC

    You basically just described my life most of the time, except when I do the freezing thing in class, teachers get really angry because they just think I'm ignoring them, when judging by my grades, I should be able to do it instantly.

    I also say really irrelevant things in conversations, when I'm bored. Or I lecture people on my interests: My friends and others really don't appreciate me explaining Kepler's second law of planetary motion at every random interval, nor banging on about the life of Leon Trotsky... (Two of my major obsessions)

    Is suppose the difference is that my random outbursts and 'zoning out' just make people frustrated, rather than thinking I'm unintelligent, because I have a reputation as a nerd.

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  • graphic_nature

    Wow I would swear the poll creator is my bf if they exchanged the word "classmate" for "coworker"

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  • Britton

    Let me preface by saying that I did NOT read any responses to this poll/story. But it sounds to me that you are quite the opposite of what people think and perhaps the average person/conversation bores you. Maybe you need to be around more "deep thinkers" and perhaps should try and find a more intelligent group of friends to surround yourself with? Have you ever considered taking an IQ test?

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  • Narutofan

    This sounds like symptoms of aspergers. I have the same set of problems off and on, especially around the holidays.

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  • bryson_willis

    I think you underestimate what people are capable of as I did.

    Consider for a moment that you haven't been to the depths of others thoughts. If you could peer in there you'd see thought just as complex as your own. After all you haven't had a 'higher' conversation with them. no, mostly its 'hi' or 'that movie was great'!

    Now what separates you from them is that you process your deeper thoughts in full conscience which is what keeps you in that dream state during class.

    you've tapped into a part of your mind you weren't meant to tap into, it makes you more a asleep of the outside world and more awake of your inside world.

    the advantage is that unlike them, is you have concious access to a deeper powerful part of your mind, on the other hand your functioning in the real world is impaired or as you say:

    "not be able to answer a simple question, as if I can't snap back to reality". see what I mean?

    You prefer to set your deeper mind onto more challenging things other than celebrities and gossip etc , every time you learn something new you just want to learn the next thing... and the next... and the next.

    All said and done it's really important you take time out to learn how to interact with everyone else. They have so much to offer, maybe not always in deep intellectual discussions, but also in laughs, girlfriends ;), belonging, parties, support...

    If you sit there stuck in all your deep thought your going to start feeling a little down kid!

    smart people in this world are the ones who can make it anywhere.

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  • This gave a new perspective on some people I know. When it comes to me however, I observe people. I don't crave a lot of attention, merely an audience. Due to my observations, I find ways to communicate with people. My thought is simply this, humans are here to keep me sane for if I didn't socialize then I don't know what looney bin I'd be jammed into.

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  • Just1question

    I'm kinda like this. I've been alot better since I left school though. I hate people, and I have having to be with them. But when I am with them I feel as though I don't belong there so I try to join in with their convo's ect ect.

    At school, I used to fight for stupid things. Just to give me something to do, I used to get told off and expelled for a couple of days or what ever but it wasn't about the attention, or rebbelling, I just did it for fun and to quench the boredom.

    But looking back now, I wish I could start it all again. Because I would know what to do now to fit in.

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