Am i crazy? my friends all went against me when i

I don't know how 7 people can all agree unless I'm missing something here like a new parenting style? Is it because I'm a millennial and they're gen z?

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Basically I had a new friend group I started hanging with we all met on bumble friends 6 months back, they all ditched me after I told my friend who has a 2 year old daughter that she should put her daughter to bed earlier and I was extremely polite about it. She puts her 2 year old daughter to bed at anywhere from 2am to 7am. Some days it's 2am next day 5am next 7am you get the idea. No set sleep schedule which is bad for adults too let alone children

>>>On weekdays her daughter goes to bed anytime from 2am to 7am with the average being 5am and she wakes up and her grandma picks her up to take her to day care then drops her back home around 1pm

So she'll often get 2-4 hours of sleep and a baby that young requires 10-12 hrs and she says she lets her sleep in on the weekend to make up for it but not having a set bed time and not getting more than a few hours sleep for a baby is insanity to me

I was worried about the poor baby so when I politely brought this up to her she didn't say much and when the rest of our friend group heard they told me I was a psycho telling someone how to parent and I defended myself saying I am worried about the baby getting no sleep and they said that she can do whatever she wants with her baby so I said actually if she's sleep depriving her baby like we are all witnessing it's going to ruin the baby's health so they told me I was a fascist and to burn in hell

I didn't say anything more after the comment to her about kindly suggesting to put her baby to sleep earlier. She told them about my comment and all 7 of them sent long messages saying I should never have children and that I'm evil so I thought am I crazy but I researched it even though I knew I was correct and all doctors and studies say sleep is important, sleep deprivation is bad and babies require set sleep bedtimes without it they're prone to depression and anxiety as they develop

So now I keep getting hate texts from them I blocked them all but one sent me another text through Facebook saying I shouldn't have been born and they hope I go straight to hell

Am I crazy is this normal the entire 7 people in the group think I'm wrong, I was the oldest they're 22-26 the Mom is 25. I'm 31 so I thought maybe it's a gen z thing

Sorry this is long I just want to see what you all say

Yes they're right you're wrong and crazy 2
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Comments ( 35 )
  • Cable4nerds

    Pretty sure it’s neglect and cps can be called for that.. just saying but I do feel like something is missing to this story for a group of “friends” to act that way. That or you needed better friends anyways.

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  • Meatballsandwich

    It's not a Gen Z thing, it's just your group of friends that are crazy.

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  • GaelicPotato

    I feel like we're missing something here that OP isn't saying.

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    • That's literally it. I never said anything before I held it in I thought why are none of them saying anything so then one day I finally said something

      I work 10pm to 6am. When I'm on my job she will FaceTime me and her baby is always awake even when I leave my job many times she will say I have to put Jocelyn to sleep and it's mostly 5am or later and then she says her mom is coming to pick up her baby in a couple hours but the baby was awake the whole day she sends videos of the baby or photos throughout the day to the group text and to me. My friend sleeps during the day and says she would never put her baby to sleep early because she can't wake up before 2pm so the baby goes to bed for the first time at 2am earliest average 5am many times 7am
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      My text is this copy and pasted:
      Why is your baby up so late again 😮 It's 5:30 in the morning. I think you might want to put your baby to sleep earlier.

      Her reply: I'm not a morning person the baby sleeps when I sleep lol.

      Me: But you sleep until afternoon or 5pm.. your baby wakes up at 8 and goes to sleep at 5:30.

      Her: Girl I know but she makes it up on the weekends smh.

      Then all 7 of them her included told me I'm selfish, a fascist etc and to go to hell.

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      • GaelicPotato

        That's borderline neglect.

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  • ospry

    gaelicpotato is right, this is borderline neglect. If you're really convinced that the child is regularly getting less than 5 hours of sleep a night, that would be grounds for contacting CPS. But calling CPS on people can really fuck up their family if you turn out to be wrong, so before acting on anything, try to be as absolutely certain as possible

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  • JellyBeanBandit

    I never understood why people get so offended when you point out that they're doing something wrong with parenting. Like they'd be fine if you pointed out something they were doing wrong with anything else, but they treat parenting different. Parenting is a skill like any other, there's no shame in being bad at it, so long as you try to improve at it, and part of that is getting critiques and feedback from people.

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  • raisinbran

    Is she one of those onlyfans moms doing porn with the kid in the background?

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    • Meatballsandwich

      Those people are fucking disgusting!

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    • No but she and one of the others in the group do tiktok

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  • Giorgi

    seems like your friends got some kind of permanent substance induced shit.

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    • Two do weed but that's it. 🤷‍♀️

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  • olderdude-xx

    I suggest that you find a new group of acquaintances who share your basic values.

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  • Anonnet

    Yeah, obviously sleep is important. You'd have to be the dumbest idiot born in the city of morons to think otherwise. It's not even something you have to be taught, it's basic instinct. "Hm, my body feels sluggish and lethargic, as if it wants to stop moving for a while" but instead of common sense, the very next thought was "haha Tiktok", and they thought that was so normal and smart that they decided to make it hereditary.

    Anyway, like Gaelic said, there's definitely a lot missing in this story. Either way, no, it's not a generational thing. You're not from a completely different time in history, it's only a 5-year gap. These people just have to learn the hard way (faster and harder if the police or CPS have to get involved).

    I especially liked the "don't tell me how to parent" thing, like being worried about a child's well-being is bad for society. She's 25, everyone should be telling her how to parent.

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  • litelander8

    You’re not wrong. But also you can’t tell people what to do with their kids. The child’s sleep schedule has nothing to do with you.

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    • hauntedbysandwiches

      It does if it's child abuse which sleep depriving a baby is. CPS can take the baby away very easily in this situation.

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      • Cable4nerds

        ^ came here to say that.

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      • litelander8

        You’ve got kids?

        I’m a big fan of a set schedule for kids. But I’ve seen a lot of parents who don’t. I don’t think not having a schedule is a reason to put a kid in the system.

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        • Cable4nerds

          You must not know how CPS works. They will remove a child if they feel they need to. APS is the same way. But it wouldn’t immediately put a child “into the system” it would result in frequent follow ups for the child’s well being and more than likely being ordered to be apart of said check ups at any time of day so they can be sure the child isn’t being affected negatively. In this instance it could serve as sleep deprivation at such a young age. Not sure if it was directed to me or not but I do have kids and I also come from a family where some of my siblings have “been in the system” as you say. It’s a crazy world and granted the system is fucked 103% of the time - if brought to their attention in a certain manner it can result to this.
          The same as the well being of a child in a home with one sole parent who’s neglectful vs being with another family member who can provide. It can all be looked at from different lenses. The point being - it’s one thing to be keeping a baby/child up late “past their bedtime” and not having a consistent enough time frame but it’s another to blatantly not put your child to bed until after midnight when they’re that young and need to have a decent sleep schedule.
          I would think as a parent you’d get that and not be so offended when someone corrects you..

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  • mafioso

    You are definitely right. The kid should get as much sleep as it needs and it should be a somehow regular schedule. They all should read the book "Why we sleep". I would even suggest, that child support should be called to check on this young mother. But I understand, that it would be obvious, that you did it and you could meet unpleasant consequences.

    They seem really weird and you can be thankful, that this happened this early, cause they are super toxic.

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  • Tommythecaty

    You made friends with morons, it’s not your fault, sometimes takes time to see it come out.

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  • Giorgi

    all following of your 7 friends must of have been on something that severely impacted their decision making and rationality.

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  • Wow3986

    This is offensive to suicidal people.

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    • Huh

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      • Wow3986

        This is OFFENSIVE to SUICIDAL people!

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        • How?

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          • Wow3986

            "Basically I had a new friend group I started hanging with".

            That line, yeah, that line mentions a common suicide method. Do you want people to die?

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