In wars, sane people drop terrible bombs on civilians all the time. Look at the mass civilian casualties from Russian bombings in Syria. Very sane people. Mass murders. Dots connected.
How do you know they are sane people.. did you scan their brains?c: A lot of sociopaths and narcissists seem very normal and have no obvious signs of being mentally ill.
Admittedly, my observation is unsupported, and not obvious. If you're going to claim that your assertion is obvious, you have some data to collect, and some definitions to establish. At the moment, all you have is supposition. Sorry.
Narcissists and sociopaths don't have the capability to fall into the mindset required to actually serve in the army. Most of them are too self-centered to give up their individual identity and follow the orders of another person unquestioningly.
Also you forgot to factor in the devotion many have to their religion; it's quite immense and people build their entire lives around it; most of which are sane.
A lot of high functioning narcissists and sociopaths strive for positions of authority and power.. or even just for the glory and respect/admiration of others so being in the military, police force, politics, religious leader etc.. will certainly attract them. Being seen as a "hero" is enough for a lot of narcissists even if they have to follow orders from another.. most likely another narc.
Narcissists already see themselves as a hero; they only seek after validation to boost their own ego. They would not tolerate the demeaning nature of training, much less gain enough trust of their fellow squad members to be promoted to rank above them. Seeming arrogant tends to make Sociopaths on the other hand don't care enough about society to volunteer to protect it much less risk their lives for it.
You make the mistake of assuming the desire to kill is stronger in those who have less empathy, and even worse assuming that by killing without remorse someone you automatically prove yourself to be a sociopath. Hate and anger can allow someone to do horrible things and still not regret it, even though they may feel guilty about harming someone else.
narcissist,sociopath or another disorder.. my main point is a person who commits a horrible crime has literally problems in the brain, thus has a mental illness..period, that's not so hard to comprehend.
In an infinite amount of time, under every conceivable circumstance, I think at least one sane person would commit a mass murder.
Connect the dots man! Objectively.
If a person brain is wired to have strong empathy and conscience, he wouldn't commit mass murder.. maybe unless someone had guns on his family's heads and says they're all gonna die if he doesn't shoot up a bunch of other people.. but that's a highly unlikely situation.. l'm talking about people in general c:
Nah, you're right. Generally I agree that if someone commits a mass murder, they are by definition insane (any extreme examples, and war to the side because that's not what you're talking about).
What I was getting at before was just that the law is supposed to act as a deterrent. So, if people know they can easily plead insanity by default for a particular crime, then the law isn't really acting as a deterrent. So, there's a good argument that more people would commit that crime because they know the punishment won't be severe.
But on the other hand, realistically for crimes like mass murder - I mean, there's pretty much no way any sane person would do that, even if they *knew* there'd be no punishment.
But that's all, I was just replying to the part about why the law doesn't treat those people as insane by default. And I think that's one of the reasons. It's not my opinion on insane people, just why I think the law is like that.
Did you know that in wars, officers kill their own troops for failing to obey orders to kill enemy combatants. Join the army, it will help you to grow up.
Except an officer's gun to your head is the most common case. Marksmanship and firepower by the entire unit is what will get the entire unit home alive. Normal people return from wars with lifelong PTSD. There is no such thing as an uninjured infrantry solider. Wars are tragedy for everyone.
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Yes obviously..and a lot of scientists actually back that up too..
A sane person would never commit mass murder.Period. Open your eyes and connect the dots objectively.
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In wars, sane people drop terrible bombs on civilians all the time. Look at the mass civilian casualties from Russian bombings in Syria. Very sane people. Mass murders. Dots connected.
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How do you know they are sane people.. did you scan their brains?c: A lot of sociopaths and narcissists seem very normal and have no obvious signs of being mentally ill.
Obviously those people weren't sane..actually a lot of people in military are narcissists and sociopaths.. dots not connected c:
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Admittedly, my observation is unsupported, and not obvious. If you're going to claim that your assertion is obvious, you have some data to collect, and some definitions to establish. At the moment, all you have is supposition. Sorry.
Narcissists and sociopaths don't have the capability to fall into the mindset required to actually serve in the army. Most of them are too self-centered to give up their individual identity and follow the orders of another person unquestioningly.
Also you forgot to factor in the devotion many have to their religion; it's quite immense and people build their entire lives around it; most of which are sane.
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A lot of high functioning narcissists and sociopaths strive for positions of authority and power.. or even just for the glory and respect/admiration of others so being in the military, police force, politics, religious leader etc.. will certainly attract them. Being seen as a "hero" is enough for a lot of narcissists even if they have to follow orders from another.. most likely another narc.
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Narcissists already see themselves as a hero; they only seek after validation to boost their own ego. They would not tolerate the demeaning nature of training, much less gain enough trust of their fellow squad members to be promoted to rank above them. Seeming arrogant tends to make Sociopaths on the other hand don't care enough about society to volunteer to protect it much less risk their lives for it.
You make the mistake of assuming the desire to kill is stronger in those who have less empathy, and even worse assuming that by killing without remorse someone you automatically prove yourself to be a sociopath. Hate and anger can allow someone to do horrible things and still not regret it, even though they may feel guilty about harming someone else.
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just look up narcissists in the military..
narcissist,sociopath or another disorder.. my main point is a person who commits a horrible crime has literally problems in the brain, thus has a mental illness..period, that's not so hard to comprehend.
In an infinite amount of time, under every conceivable circumstance, I think at least one sane person would commit a mass murder.
Connect the dots man! Objectively.
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If a person brain is wired to have strong empathy and conscience, he wouldn't commit mass murder.. maybe unless someone had guns on his family's heads and says they're all gonna die if he doesn't shoot up a bunch of other people.. but that's a highly unlikely situation.. l'm talking about people in general c:
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Nah, you're right. Generally I agree that if someone commits a mass murder, they are by definition insane (any extreme examples, and war to the side because that's not what you're talking about).
What I was getting at before was just that the law is supposed to act as a deterrent. So, if people know they can easily plead insanity by default for a particular crime, then the law isn't really acting as a deterrent. So, there's a good argument that more people would commit that crime because they know the punishment won't be severe.
But on the other hand, realistically for crimes like mass murder - I mean, there's pretty much no way any sane person would do that, even if they *knew* there'd be no punishment.
But that's all, I was just replying to the part about why the law doesn't treat those people as insane by default. And I think that's one of the reasons. It's not my opinion on insane people, just why I think the law is like that.
Did you know that in wars, officers kill their own troops for failing to obey orders to kill enemy combatants. Join the army, it will help you to grow up.
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Well that's a totally different case.. i'm talking about people in general without guns to their head ordered to kill or be killed.
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Except an officer's gun to your head is the most common case. Marksmanship and firepower by the entire unit is what will get the entire unit home alive. Normal people return from wars with lifelong PTSD. There is no such thing as an uninjured infrantry solider. Wars are tragedy for everyone.