ItDuz said: "a. It's black mail? How so? By giving the male the choice to not bare responsibility like a woman gets the choice not to bare it, that's blackmail? Explain how it's blackmail."
I DID explain it. I even gave you the dictionary definition. You STILL don't see that? I'll repeat it, OK?
co·erce [koh-urs]
verb (used with object), -erced, -erc·ing.
1.
to compel by force, intimidation, or authority, especially without regard for individual desire or volition: They coerced him into signing the document.
2.
to bring about through the use of force or other forms of compulsion; exact: to coerce obedience.
3.
to dominate or control, especially by exploiting fear, anxiety, etc.
So, to put it into terms we are discussing, the male is coercing the female into having an abortion. He is saying "If you don't abort, then I will be gone and not support the baby" How is that NOT coercion? PLEASE answer that!! Or is it not coercion because you were given a choice? No, silly. Coercion involves choice. That's part of it, it's in the definition. It's 'do this, or else'. THAT'S coercion. OK?
It's no different than someone saying "Sign this contract or I'll kill your mother"....or.... "Choose either the gun or the knife which I will use to kill you." SAME fucking thing. It's using threats of any sort to pressure someone into doing what you want. That's illegal, and no one would ever condone such behavior. That's the main flaw in your plan, and why it would never ever be made law. If that was made law then imagine the flood of other laws that would come afterwards. You fail to see unintended consequences. You're not thinking ahead. You need to find a better plan of attack.
Fact is, abortion is really barely legal. If you honestly think you're going to have luck making abortion essentially a 'must', or a procedure more common than a flu shot, then you've got a lot more thinking to do. People frown upon abortion, for the most part. And you want to convince them that women should be coerced into having abortions? good luck. Do a survey on that, please!!
Why not lobby for NO abortion? That way, it's completely fair. The woman won't have any more power than the man. They'd both be equally responsible.
Or lobby for sex ed and free birth control.
Or start up free or low cost abortion clinics. I'd bet a lot of women who might want an abortion can't afford it. So help them out, and thereby help your fellow man.
A couple questions I had for you that you didn't answer: What if a woman doesn't know she's pregnant (or not until it's too late to abort)? What if a woman hides her pregnancy? What if the woman can't find the father? What's the plan then?
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ItDuz said: "a. It's black mail? How so? By giving the male the choice to not bare responsibility like a woman gets the choice not to bare it, that's blackmail? Explain how it's blackmail."
I DID explain it. I even gave you the dictionary definition. You STILL don't see that? I'll repeat it, OK?
co·erce [koh-urs]
verb (used with object), -erced, -erc·ing.
1.
to compel by force, intimidation, or authority, especially without regard for individual desire or volition: They coerced him into signing the document.
2.
to bring about through the use of force or other forms of compulsion; exact: to coerce obedience.
3.
to dominate or control, especially by exploiting fear, anxiety, etc.
So, to put it into terms we are discussing, the male is coercing the female into having an abortion. He is saying "If you don't abort, then I will be gone and not support the baby" How is that NOT coercion? PLEASE answer that!! Or is it not coercion because you were given a choice? No, silly. Coercion involves choice. That's part of it, it's in the definition. It's 'do this, or else'. THAT'S coercion. OK?
It's no different than someone saying "Sign this contract or I'll kill your mother"....or.... "Choose either the gun or the knife which I will use to kill you." SAME fucking thing. It's using threats of any sort to pressure someone into doing what you want. That's illegal, and no one would ever condone such behavior. That's the main flaw in your plan, and why it would never ever be made law. If that was made law then imagine the flood of other laws that would come afterwards. You fail to see unintended consequences. You're not thinking ahead. You need to find a better plan of attack.
Fact is, abortion is really barely legal. If you honestly think you're going to have luck making abortion essentially a 'must', or a procedure more common than a flu shot, then you've got a lot more thinking to do. People frown upon abortion, for the most part. And you want to convince them that women should be coerced into having abortions? good luck. Do a survey on that, please!!
Why not lobby for NO abortion? That way, it's completely fair. The woman won't have any more power than the man. They'd both be equally responsible.
Or lobby for sex ed and free birth control.
Or start up free or low cost abortion clinics. I'd bet a lot of women who might want an abortion can't afford it. So help them out, and thereby help your fellow man.
A couple questions I had for you that you didn't answer: What if a woman doesn't know she's pregnant (or not until it's too late to abort)? What if a woman hides her pregnancy? What if the woman can't find the father? What's the plan then?