I'm sorry, I guess I did read it wrong. Probably because I do get people who make really harsh judgements about adoption, so it can be a bit of a sore spot for me and I admit I sometimes get carried away. You're right, some kids don't do well with adoption, and some definitely don't get the same kind of wonderful childhood that I was so fortunately given.
Sorry again that I took it the wrong way. :-)
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NocturnePonyFan, I'm not going to ask you to like me. Infact you didn't even take my side on my debate I had on here, so I don't see where their logic comes from that I am only being nice to you because you took my side on something you probably haven't bothered to read(which is extremely understandable), I took your side on a completely different discussion, the one about you being adopted. So, by going by Wigsplitz and Mando's logic, given that you never took my side on anything on here (I don't expect you to, it's up to you what you believe) I wouldn't of "kissed ass".
Secondly, I have never called someone a retard merely for dissagreeing with me, such a thing is illogical. I may call someone retarded if they have insulted me first (in which Widsplitz had done in the debate between myself and her).
But, you don't have to believe me. If you dissagree with my beliefs, that's fine, that doesn't mean I don't believe what your biological mother done was right and a good thing to do. And that definetly doesn't mean you'll be any enemy of mine, like Wigsplitz incorrectly explained.
If you really want someone's opinion on the type of person I am, then ask the members in the IIN chat feature. The people in there have known me for a long time, even since before Wigsplitz joined this site, and I spend a lot of time in there.
I mean, take in to consideration on how Wigsplitz tries to insult me to you, where as when I mention her to someone else, I don't attempt to insult her.
As for why you got the reply from Wigsplitz and Mando in such a manner, completely avoiding the conversation you two had to just make me look bad. I told them that I'm no longer debating with them, due to the people in the chat feature telling me that debating with them is pointless, they won't back down even when they've been proven wrong.
As for adoption and abortion. I respect it a lot, which is why when Wigsplitz said "To be equal, it would be better and easier to ban abortion" that I said that it wouldn't. Read what Mando said (unless you noticed it when he/she said it already). He said "In reality for him its abort or adopt"...He tells me that part of my way of thinking is to abort or adopt, right after saying I have no respect for adoption. So I have no respect for something he just said I believe? After reading such things, can you blame me on why I decided to take the advice other users gave me, that I should end the discussion and end the whole debate with those two?
But, if you want to know what type of person I am by people outside me, Wigsplitz, and Mando's debates, feel free to go to the chat feature and ask other users that have known me for longer.
I have IINGold, so if you wish to discuss this further, but in a more easier way (easier because it takes a while to find our replies to eachother due to all the other ones on this page) then feel free to private message me for an explanation. Unlike from what you have seen from those two, I won't be calling them "pieces of shit" like what Wigsplitz said about me.
Hey, you're the one who told me the correct way of calling someone a piece of shit yesterday. I was just taking your advice on the proper phrasing, since last time I told you that 'you ain't shit' and you jumped on the opportunity to school me on that too. So, there ya go. So now you're pissed because I heeded your terminology lesson? See, you DID win something!! From now on, I'll only call people 'shit', and never 'ain't shit'. Thanks. I tip my hat to you, good sir. You are so wise. I am a fool for not realizing this sooner.
FYI, you're the one who wrote your profile info, and it isn't flattering. I can only go on what you say and how you act, and you have issues and you're not even good at masking your deficiencies. Not in the least. You think you're something that you're not.
And btw, I never said it would be 'better' to ban abortion, I said it would be EASIER than employing this other half-baked scheme you have going. Again, don't put words in my mouth.
Can I ask you a personal question? You mentioned that your bio father wanted your mom to have an abortion. I was wondering, how does that make you feel?
I'm just wondering because of the debate here, it's my assumption that if a child grew up knowing his/her father never wanted her/him and wanted her/him aborted (in other words, wished them dead basically), there would be terrible effects. So, I just wanted your take on it since you have direct experience in the matter. I know you said you had a great life with your adoptive family, but putting that aside, you must have some feelings about how your bio father treated the situation.
I'm trying to imagine how the world would be if this 'legal abandonment' involving coercion to abort would affect society as a whole. I'm imagining that a lot of those poor kids would be incredibly messed up. We already have some input indicating that absent parents have a very negative impact on a child, and having an absent parent is reportedly linked to crime, poverty, abuse, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, dropping out of school, etc. I know people who had both parents in their life but the parents were vocal about the kid 'ruining their life' or not being wanted, and they all seem to have problems of some sort. What do you think?
Well, to be 100%, completely honest, there are many times where I wish my dad (birth dad) got his wish, and I had been aborted. I ended up with bipolar disorder, OCD, and recently diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. I'm an effing train wreck lol. So yeah, there are many times when I wish that I was aborted, when I'm having an episode or depression. During my "good" times, I honestly don't even think about him or the situation, and even when I was told about it when I was younger, I was just like "Oh wow, I have a backstory!" It was more joy than anything, knowing that people wanted me. The depression doesn't have anything to do with knowing my dad wanted me gone, though, I really want to make that clear. It's all the disorders that affect me chemically. :)
Mando is right, anyone who has been around here for a while knows that ItDuz will kiss your ass if you agree with anything he says, but if you dare disagree you are 'retarded' and his #1 enemy. He's not being nice to you for your benefit, he's being nice to you for HIS benefit. Don't let him fool you. Read his profile, he explains in full detail how big of a piece of shit he is and how he just uses people, and thinks he's a real charmer. Don't buy into his bullshit.
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I'm sorry, I guess I did read it wrong. Probably because I do get people who make really harsh judgements about adoption, so it can be a bit of a sore spot for me and I admit I sometimes get carried away. You're right, some kids don't do well with adoption, and some definitely don't get the same kind of wonderful childhood that I was so fortunately given.
Sorry again that I took it the wrong way. :-)
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NocturnePonyFan, I'm not going to ask you to like me. Infact you didn't even take my side on my debate I had on here, so I don't see where their logic comes from that I am only being nice to you because you took my side on something you probably haven't bothered to read(which is extremely understandable), I took your side on a completely different discussion, the one about you being adopted. So, by going by Wigsplitz and Mando's logic, given that you never took my side on anything on here (I don't expect you to, it's up to you what you believe) I wouldn't of "kissed ass".
Secondly, I have never called someone a retard merely for dissagreeing with me, such a thing is illogical. I may call someone retarded if they have insulted me first (in which Widsplitz had done in the debate between myself and her).
But, you don't have to believe me. If you dissagree with my beliefs, that's fine, that doesn't mean I don't believe what your biological mother done was right and a good thing to do. And that definetly doesn't mean you'll be any enemy of mine, like Wigsplitz incorrectly explained.
If you really want someone's opinion on the type of person I am, then ask the members in the IIN chat feature. The people in there have known me for a long time, even since before Wigsplitz joined this site, and I spend a lot of time in there.
I mean, take in to consideration on how Wigsplitz tries to insult me to you, where as when I mention her to someone else, I don't attempt to insult her.
As for why you got the reply from Wigsplitz and Mando in such a manner, completely avoiding the conversation you two had to just make me look bad. I told them that I'm no longer debating with them, due to the people in the chat feature telling me that debating with them is pointless, they won't back down even when they've been proven wrong.
As for adoption and abortion. I respect it a lot, which is why when Wigsplitz said "To be equal, it would be better and easier to ban abortion" that I said that it wouldn't. Read what Mando said (unless you noticed it when he/she said it already). He said "In reality for him its abort or adopt"...He tells me that part of my way of thinking is to abort or adopt, right after saying I have no respect for adoption. So I have no respect for something he just said I believe? After reading such things, can you blame me on why I decided to take the advice other users gave me, that I should end the discussion and end the whole debate with those two?
But, if you want to know what type of person I am by people outside me, Wigsplitz, and Mando's debates, feel free to go to the chat feature and ask other users that have known me for longer.
I have IINGold, so if you wish to discuss this further, but in a more easier way (easier because it takes a while to find our replies to eachother due to all the other ones on this page) then feel free to private message me for an explanation. Unlike from what you have seen from those two, I won't be calling them "pieces of shit" like what Wigsplitz said about me.
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Hey, you're the one who told me the correct way of calling someone a piece of shit yesterday. I was just taking your advice on the proper phrasing, since last time I told you that 'you ain't shit' and you jumped on the opportunity to school me on that too. So, there ya go. So now you're pissed because I heeded your terminology lesson? See, you DID win something!! From now on, I'll only call people 'shit', and never 'ain't shit'. Thanks. I tip my hat to you, good sir. You are so wise. I am a fool for not realizing this sooner.
FYI, you're the one who wrote your profile info, and it isn't flattering. I can only go on what you say and how you act, and you have issues and you're not even good at masking your deficiencies. Not in the least. You think you're something that you're not.
And btw, I never said it would be 'better' to ban abortion, I said it would be EASIER than employing this other half-baked scheme you have going. Again, don't put words in my mouth.
Can I ask you a personal question? You mentioned that your bio father wanted your mom to have an abortion. I was wondering, how does that make you feel?
I'm just wondering because of the debate here, it's my assumption that if a child grew up knowing his/her father never wanted her/him and wanted her/him aborted (in other words, wished them dead basically), there would be terrible effects. So, I just wanted your take on it since you have direct experience in the matter. I know you said you had a great life with your adoptive family, but putting that aside, you must have some feelings about how your bio father treated the situation.
I'm trying to imagine how the world would be if this 'legal abandonment' involving coercion to abort would affect society as a whole. I'm imagining that a lot of those poor kids would be incredibly messed up. We already have some input indicating that absent parents have a very negative impact on a child, and having an absent parent is reportedly linked to crime, poverty, abuse, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, dropping out of school, etc. I know people who had both parents in their life but the parents were vocal about the kid 'ruining their life' or not being wanted, and they all seem to have problems of some sort. What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your insight.
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Well, to be 100%, completely honest, there are many times where I wish my dad (birth dad) got his wish, and I had been aborted. I ended up with bipolar disorder, OCD, and recently diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. I'm an effing train wreck lol. So yeah, there are many times when I wish that I was aborted, when I'm having an episode or depression. During my "good" times, I honestly don't even think about him or the situation, and even when I was told about it when I was younger, I was just like "Oh wow, I have a backstory!" It was more joy than anything, knowing that people wanted me. The depression doesn't have anything to do with knowing my dad wanted me gone, though, I really want to make that clear. It's all the disorders that affect me chemically. :)
Mando is right, anyone who has been around here for a while knows that ItDuz will kiss your ass if you agree with anything he says, but if you dare disagree you are 'retarded' and his #1 enemy. He's not being nice to you for your benefit, he's being nice to you for HIS benefit. Don't let him fool you. Read his profile, he explains in full detail how big of a piece of shit he is and how he just uses people, and thinks he's a real charmer. Don't buy into his bullshit.