A friend i have started hating men since she became a feminist

She seems really bitter and twisted against men. She kept going on about the "gender pay gap" so I decided to be open and looked up what she was talking about. When I found out evidence that went against it she started screaming about "the patriarchy." Idk what it is but she's become a really vile person since she became a feminist. She says stuff like men who are raped "probably enjoyed it." Are all feminists like this, is the ideology toxic, or is it just my friend's interpretation? I want my old friend back before she became a feminist and Idk what to do.

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  • I can’t stand when people act like that. I believe the new term for people who have those views is “feminazi”. Sadly, actual feminism (people who actually believe in EQUAL rights) has evolved into man haters. Im assuming the evidence you found was that it only appears that way because women typically choose jobs that are less dangerous, and jobs that have more risk involved are typically payed more, right? That’s what I found haha. Anyway, I think you should explain to your friend that you respect her views (even if you don’t because they’re absurd), but you don’t want to be around her if she is going to only talk about that. Change the topic or say that you’d rather discuss something else. Sadly, you might not get your friend back as the person she used to be because once someone becomes involved in these views, it typically only goes downhill from here. Good luck.

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    • Ye that's pretty much what I found. Men are dominant in jobs that provide a lot of money such as engineering. And I found women dominate a lot more nurturing jobs like nursing. But she told me that was "sexist" and that that's what "the patriarchy want's me to believe." You're probably right sadly I'll see her less, it's really sad I hope she is more open to other peoples ideas and doesn't continue trying to tear down men, thanks for the advice.

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  • shes a fake ass bitch and i suggest cutting her tf off bc next thing you know shes gonna have an artificial penis

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  • The wage gap doesn’t actually exist, If you look into it enough. You have to count most working class women Take maternity leave and don’t do a strenuous jobs as a man would, but if you do the same job, and same hours, Then legally they have to pay you the same it is illegal to not pay you the same as someone else. If you’re really wanting to be friends with her then don’t ever bring up the topic. But, if it continues to be a cancerous And toxic relationship then I would suggest ditching your friend. Most friends should be open minded to whatever you have to say and it’s rather rude to not. Good luck with your situation I wish you the best.

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    • Thank you, ye that's what I found too. I think I'm going to hope she changes for now and just ignore when she says horrible stuff.

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  • That can't be normal. I mean. There shouldn't be any discriminations against women, but there shouldn't be any discriminations against men as well. If you hate men for that, it's just another form of sexism.

    What feminists should do is to support *Gender Equality*, not having females better than males.

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  • This sounds a bit fake, honestly.
    On the off chance that it isn't, I'll actually answer. Your friend sounds immature and confused. Hopefully she will come around and start thinking more critically (I'm sure she will). However, if you were to view all of feminist ideology through this experience and denounce it completely, you would also be ignorant. Some things like "the patriarchy" and the "gender wage gap" are worth really digging into. They are complex subjects, not things to form opinions about after reading one article. You can either argue with her or let her work through this on her own. As for you, educate yourself and keep an open mind.

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    • Hello thank you for your comment, I think diversity of opinion is important. :) In all fairness I haven't looked into the patriarchy that much so you could be right and it's important to not make up your mind until you have all the facts. I have looked into the gender wage gap a lot though and I think Pussy_Destroyer_69 is onto the right thing with that, it really does seem to be a well-distributed conspiracy theory.

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    • If you give an opportunity to "the patriarchy" and the "gender wage gap" you also should give a look to the "holocaust" or "9/11". I mean, all of them are conspiracy theories so if one is alright all of them are, right?

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      • You seem like a well-adjusted individual who has many loved ones in their life, Pussy_Destroyer_69. I'm sure if I humor you I will gain valuable insight and not regret arguing with a desperate puppet.

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        • Did I, in any of the lines, tried to offend you? Looks like I've express myself in a wrong way. You see, conspiracy theories aren't that bad. The problem is they are just fantasy until proven. So you have all these complex issues that have been discussed for years and are far from being proved and you go and found an entire ideology out of a couple of them. Now they (the conspiracy theories) are true. Just open your mind and conceive that you could be wrong. I know it hurts at first but you will learn, I swear.

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