A balance of all threes

Let's live in real reality for a little while all your life, there's the three morals of the day, select one of the four answers below.

selfishness 0
hedonism 2
other (please specify) 3
Epicureanism 3
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  • LloydAsher

    You chose very closely related "morals". Selfishness, hedonism and epicureanism are practically the same thing just with varying scopes of what the pleasurable stimulus is.

    Most people dont know what hedonistic or epicureanism is. Since philosophy is not taught as a core curriculum. So providing a little explanation to the post would be appreciated for the people not wanting to look up what those words mean from wikipedia.

    I dont go out of my way with choosing a school of philosophical thought. I am just me and all I have going for my dreams is wanting to build a castle. I'm just doing what I can to get to the point where i can lay the first brick.

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    • normal-rebellious

      Getting kinky eh? Click click! Good luck with your wife!

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      • LloydAsher

        Yes... whether it will just be a normal dungeon or a sex dungeon is still pending.

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        • normal-rebellious

          A sex dungeon eh! I suppose sex with one's spouse is already normal, which isn't really anything, it's just lust with no meaning.

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          • LloydAsher

            Oh I'm pretty sure I'm going to marry my gf. I am actually planning on building a castle the only thing I'm not sure of for the castle is the basement. It's nothing super technical it's just something that it is hard to determine the exact location of where the castle will be built its impossible to know if having a basement is a wise idea.

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            • normal-rebellious

              What do you want sex for? In all honesty lust and intemperate sex is a sin, why not play Scrabble or perhaps play Chinese Solitaire (it isn't a card game)?

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  • Inkmaster

    None of the above. I would consider all three of those immoral.

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    • normal-rebellious

      At least you can pick a moral you're following which isn't on the list!

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      • Inkmaster

        How about selflessness and self-control?

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        • normal-rebellious

          Still on the list, it's not all pleasure and it's not all philosophy.

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    • LloydAsher

      They are useful. All deadly sins are useful within moderation. Overindulgence is what will get you sent to hell.

      Selfishness = self preservation

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      • Inkmaster

        No, self preservation is doing what you need to survive. Selfishness is only caring about your own needs without caring about the needs of others.

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        • LloydAsher

          If two people where starving and had one loaf of bread is it self preservation or selfishness if on of those starving people ate the loaf instead of sharing?

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          • Inkmaster

            It's both. That doesn't mean they're the same thing.

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            • LloydAsher

              It's about perception. Self preservation takes on many forms, selfishness and self preservation intertwines often. Pure altruism will get you killed.

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  • bigbudchonga

    Stoicism for me. Well, stoicism ideally. I'm a hedonistic bastard in reality.

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    • normal-rebellious

      For me it's just a moral code and way of life I made up as secular people don't have people with a way of life.

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  • Tommythecaty

    “in real reality”

    Yeah ok I’ll try 🤣

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  • I think it's important to recognize that no one school of thought has it all right. Instead of focusing on only one way thinking, you could work with many different fields of thought.

    It's like, if you want to catch fish, you could use the same bait in the same spot, or you have a wide array of bait and poles and whatnot tailored for specific purposes

    When we restrict our lenses of reality, we start to lose sight of who we are, our sense of self

    It's how our brain works honestly, form neural pathways, memories, and with repetition comes improvement. So the more pathways you have, and like genetics the more varied they are, the more informed you are when it comes to tackling things in the moment

    Not saying any of those are bad, I haven't really looked at them though. I myself could argue the necessity of selfishness while tying it to virtue. It really depends on how it's used, same with what I said about neural pathways

    And like with eating, you don't want to eat the same food every day. I think that can lead to medical issues, it probably didn't help that Super Size Me guy with his medical problems

    So the point here is try to build upon more and more teachings and ways of life and adapt them all to your life. They'll all teach you something and you can choose things to commit to and integrate and others as just nice stories

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    • normal-rebellious

      Yes, selfishness isn't any form of hedonism, it concerns caring too much for yourself and not enough about others. You can live modestly in a pleasure-free life and get increasingly more selfish. I just thought that I'd be the first to say, as pleasure's a vice and Epicurean pleasure makes everyone else the bad guy, and any pleasure's just an indulgence and leads to pain.

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