He'd be a traitor to any country that he belonged to-since as I said above he is undermining the loyalty one ought to have to the country they belong to.
Of course if that country is being ruled by fascists or a thug state, then he is justified even obligated to oppose them, but otherwise in a democracy he should be a supporter of the state that gives him the life he enjoys-which cannot be found in undemocratic states.
No fail as i haven't said anything yet except for correcting YOU. You got it wrong not me, and you can't argue anything with me if you don't even know who he was.
What kind of tard just assumes someone is american and then trys to call someone on it.
Learn who he was before you argue and preach stupidity, then you'll know what it is you're actually arguing about!
Was this thread about Oscar Wilde and where he was born or was it about Patriotism? You quoted him and I pointed out that he was a traitor to hold such a view.
His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim. But since you obviously cannot refute what I've stated you think you've "won" simply because I didn't bother to look up the origins of the author.
Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth) when someone posts a quote-especially when it has little to no relevance to the subject at hand?
But since you want to split hairs, let's talk about your idiotic statement then: "He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
So wait, Irishmen cannot be traitors, only Americans can? lol, dumbass.
You'd come off looking a little smarter if you actually attempted to defend Wilde's statement rather than nitpick about him not being an American. Who gives a fuck either way. If he was from Nigeria, his statement would still be traitorous. Deal with that you pissant.
He wasn't a traitor, as he was irish he had quite a rightful view considering HIS country if you know anything of it's history.
Thats why-
"His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim" is bullshit.
"He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
- i never said any of this, you did.
But yes, he wasn't.
"Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth" - I didn't, i was educated so ofcourse i know who he was. He's quite famous, it's common knowledge you dumbass.
This whole argument was you making the assumption that he was a traitor and american, got it wrong on both accounts, and then tried to tell me it's irrelevant. While putting words in my mouth as i haven't even said ANYTHING yet except that you shouldn't call someone a traitor if you don't even know who they were or what they did.
Whats to defend? Learn irish history, learn about the IRA. It speaks for itself that he was no traitor, and isn't regarded as one.
Thats why im not defending him. Because I assumed you knew who he was in the first place, and therefore knew i was right.
Deal with that you pissant.
Ps. It makes one stupid to assume a persons a traitor, without knowing if they were or weren't infact a traitor (seriously derrrr).
Patriotism annoys me...
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He'd be a traitor to any country that he belonged to-since as I said above he is undermining the loyalty one ought to have to the country they belong to.
Of course if that country is being ruled by fascists or a thug state, then he is justified even obligated to oppose them, but otherwise in a democracy he should be a supporter of the state that gives him the life he enjoys-which cannot be found in undemocratic states.
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"anti-American" So whats america got to do with it then?
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obviously I assumed you quoted an American, nonetheless my argument still stands. You're nit-picking because your argument failed.
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No fail as i haven't said anything yet except for correcting YOU. You got it wrong not me, and you can't argue anything with me if you don't even know who he was.
What kind of tard just assumes someone is american and then trys to call someone on it.
Learn who he was before you argue and preach stupidity, then you'll know what it is you're actually arguing about!
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Was this thread about Oscar Wilde and where he was born or was it about Patriotism? You quoted him and I pointed out that he was a traitor to hold such a view.
His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim. But since you obviously cannot refute what I've stated you think you've "won" simply because I didn't bother to look up the origins of the author.
Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth) when someone posts a quote-especially when it has little to no relevance to the subject at hand?
But since you want to split hairs, let's talk about your idiotic statement then: "He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
So wait, Irishmen cannot be traitors, only Americans can? lol, dumbass.
You'd come off looking a little smarter if you actually attempted to defend Wilde's statement rather than nitpick about him not being an American. Who gives a fuck either way. If he was from Nigeria, his statement would still be traitorous. Deal with that you pissant.
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He wasn't a traitor, as he was irish he had quite a rightful view considering HIS country if you know anything of it's history.
Thats why-
"His place of origin is completely irrelevant to his claim" is bullshit.
"He can't be a traitor as he was irish not american. "
- i never said any of this, you did.
But yes, he wasn't.
"Who actually bothers to look up such trivial information (as the author's place of birth" - I didn't, i was educated so ofcourse i know who he was. He's quite famous, it's common knowledge you dumbass.
This whole argument was you making the assumption that he was a traitor and american, got it wrong on both accounts, and then tried to tell me it's irrelevant. While putting words in my mouth as i haven't even said ANYTHING yet except that you shouldn't call someone a traitor if you don't even know who they were or what they did.
Whats to defend? Learn irish history, learn about the IRA. It speaks for itself that he was no traitor, and isn't regarded as one.
Thats why im not defending him. Because I assumed you knew who he was in the first place, and therefore knew i was right.
Deal with that you pissant.
Ps. It makes one stupid to assume a persons a traitor, without knowing if they were or weren't infact a traitor (seriously derrrr).
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lol this idiot is still rambling on-no one cares, you're tedious and annoying. I didn't waste my time reading your lunacy.
Not to mention, how does it make one "stupid" simply because one doesn't know where an author was born or care to look it up?
I'm sure I can name a dozen authors that you wouldn't know their place of birth-so would that make you stupid?
What was stupid for you to take this weak line of argumentation that now has just backfired on you.