Everyone should be. I have a little thought experiment, Why can't you go to a nightclub right now? If you said cause of Covid, you're wrong. Covid's not standing at the club door to stop you from going inside.
You cant go because at some point, the enitre world decided to collectively lockdown. Governments illegaly mandated buisinesses to close. Now months later the goal is... what exactly? They said the vaccine wont stop you from getting and spreading it and only reduces symptoms, so we still need masks and distancing.
So what's the goal here? Cause I remember back in march it was 2 weeks to give them the time to set up hospitals in NY that they never used and took apart months ago. Once this "vaccine" gets out there's literally no goal anymore and we're still going to be living with rolling lockdowns.
Im not on any political side here, I just can't see any conditions of victory here.
I haven't seen any overflowing hospitals or people dropping dead in the street like we were seeing videos of from china in march.
Im not on a political side in this, I don't accept this is a serious disease though based off what I see out in the world while avoiding the news.
What do you think would be a victory condition here? My condition to a return to "normal" is going to a full packed standing room concert. I'll even accept that kind of thing is a bad idea right now, so what's the actual goal we need to meet for this to be a possibility? If a vaccine won't allow this to happen, what's next? Cause this started as a 2 week pause of everyones job to set up hospital space.
We wont return to normal if people like you wont stop being so stubborn. How many more people need to die to get people like you to understand this? 300,000 and rising everyday is like a 911 which at this point is laughable because Americans clearly dont give a shit about American lives because muh freedom and muh businesses. At this point the world should treat america as a plague dont trade or travel to it because its clear its population will never listen to reason. Sucks for the reasonable Americans but maybe they should find a way to get the nutjobs out of government. I am planning on leaving this country maybe I might even head back to south africa even with all the shit that is going on there at least the government is taking the virus seriously.
Okay, so "people like me," what am I doing exactly? Am I going out intentionally trying to get sick? No. Am I refusing to wear masks that actually say on the package they don't prevent viral transmission? No. What exactly am I doing here?
You're just repeating bot talking points from the news and social media. I don't own a buisiness and Freedom is a retarted buzzword now anyway, but if you're okay with the government having the authority to restrict movement you're obviously blind to whats really going on here.
But back to the point, what am I doing? The virus will go away if only I "take it seriously enough?" You get listed as a covid death if you get hit by a bus within 28 days of a positive covid test. The death rate for covid by age mirrors the odds of dying within a year by age. Obesity is allegedly a major contributing factor in younger deaths, why are fast food places not being closed to "save lives?"
911 was a good example to compare it to though, because it was another CIA orchestrated psyop that allowed the creation of a surveilance state to slip by. Keep drinking the flouride and watching your CIA Mockingbird news propaganda stream.
If money isnt coming in and its all going out it cant sustain itself. Thats why the soviet union collapsed. All these stimulus checks help people but the best stimulus is opening up the economy. The govwrnment cant just keep handing out money and it definitely shouldnt be giving money overseas like this last stimulus check called for.
The government can hand out as much money as it wants. There's nothing backing up the money, the entire system is based off imaginary money with debt to back it up. I had somebody a long time ago tell me banks are good because if I put $100 in the bank and somebody borrows it now I have $100, the bank has $100, and the person taking out the loan has $100. Couldn't get him to understand that no, there's still only $100 that's existing and all 3 cant have it at the same time.
The system we have is all based off debt. We're essentialy leasing currency that's privately owned so we can operate at a constant defecit. The only thing that gives the money any value is the government telling you it has value. That's a seperate issue than whats happening here, yeah, they need to open everything up. I don't want old people to die, but its absolutely insane to believe they shut down everything for this long over a strong cold bug that isn't very dangerous to healthy people in any age group.
That's the problem here. Do you really think they're doing all of this, launching constant media fear propaganda, making rules that any idiot can tell do nothing to prevent the spread of viruses, because of a virus that the vast majority of people show no symptoms of? Hard drinking 87 year olds can get it and not even notice? When elderly people with long lists of health problems don't normally get ventillators for bad pneumonia normally? That was the tell for me in the beginning. Anyone at a high risk of dying of covid would NORMALLY be denied life saving medical care if they got REGULAR pneumonia in a time when hospitals WEREN'T getting overrun?
I will say i know some ppl who've gotten it and said it was just a sore throat. Then I know even younger ppl that said it was as bad as the flu. Either way I dont think its bad enough to shut down.
I tried to do my research into how banking works and I just gave up. Its very complex. Its based on IOUs through multiple banks through the country and so on. I dont get it. I have heard the argument that moving off the gold standard was a good idea. Theres smart ppl that argue that. Im not smart enough to form my own opinion on it but I can say I think giving free money away when you dont even have it to give away is bad.
Im not a college graduate or anything. I just know having a currency backed by nothing has never worked long term at any point in history.
IOUs aren't money. There isn't enough money in bank vaults for everyone to take all their money out of the banks. There isn't even enough cash printed.
It doesn't take a smart person to know that's not a good system. Loaning money back and forth creates imaginary money that isn't availible if all of the people involved need the money at the same time.
300,000 deaths in the total of a couple of months and climbing. You Americans that dont take it seriously are truly deranged. Just admit your wrong and take this shit seriously there is a reason conservatives lost the presidency. It is clear a good chunk of the nation is awake to a growing problem.
300,000 is pretty low percentage wise when you factor in just how contagious it is. Death rate is only 0.2% not worth destroying the country in my opini0n. But everyone has their own opinions on it.
America is fucked either way you guys are very stupid to allow your government to horde your tax money and convince you its bad to have sone of it given to you. Your right its insane how you people let your leaders send your tax dollars overseas.
That money that they get from taxes is already spent when they get it. This year they did not get as much in revenue and they have already gave out more than 3 years of tax income for the whole country. Thats not sustainable.
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Everyone should be. I have a little thought experiment, Why can't you go to a nightclub right now? If you said cause of Covid, you're wrong. Covid's not standing at the club door to stop you from going inside.
You cant go because at some point, the enitre world decided to collectively lockdown. Governments illegaly mandated buisinesses to close. Now months later the goal is... what exactly? They said the vaccine wont stop you from getting and spreading it and only reduces symptoms, so we still need masks and distancing.
So what's the goal here? Cause I remember back in march it was 2 weeks to give them the time to set up hospitals in NY that they never used and took apart months ago. Once this "vaccine" gets out there's literally no goal anymore and we're still going to be living with rolling lockdowns.
Im not on any political side here, I just can't see any conditions of victory here.
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I haven't seen any overflowing hospitals or people dropping dead in the street like we were seeing videos of from china in march.
Im not on a political side in this, I don't accept this is a serious disease though based off what I see out in the world while avoiding the news.
What do you think would be a victory condition here? My condition to a return to "normal" is going to a full packed standing room concert. I'll even accept that kind of thing is a bad idea right now, so what's the actual goal we need to meet for this to be a possibility? If a vaccine won't allow this to happen, what's next? Cause this started as a 2 week pause of everyones job to set up hospital space.
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We wont return to normal if people like you wont stop being so stubborn. How many more people need to die to get people like you to understand this? 300,000 and rising everyday is like a 911 which at this point is laughable because Americans clearly dont give a shit about American lives because muh freedom and muh businesses. At this point the world should treat america as a plague dont trade or travel to it because its clear its population will never listen to reason. Sucks for the reasonable Americans but maybe they should find a way to get the nutjobs out of government. I am planning on leaving this country maybe I might even head back to south africa even with all the shit that is going on there at least the government is taking the virus seriously.
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Okay, so "people like me," what am I doing exactly? Am I going out intentionally trying to get sick? No. Am I refusing to wear masks that actually say on the package they don't prevent viral transmission? No. What exactly am I doing here?
You're just repeating bot talking points from the news and social media. I don't own a buisiness and Freedom is a retarted buzzword now anyway, but if you're okay with the government having the authority to restrict movement you're obviously blind to whats really going on here.
But back to the point, what am I doing? The virus will go away if only I "take it seriously enough?" You get listed as a covid death if you get hit by a bus within 28 days of a positive covid test. The death rate for covid by age mirrors the odds of dying within a year by age. Obesity is allegedly a major contributing factor in younger deaths, why are fast food places not being closed to "save lives?"
911 was a good example to compare it to though, because it was another CIA orchestrated psyop that allowed the creation of a surveilance state to slip by. Keep drinking the flouride and watching your CIA Mockingbird news propaganda stream.
If money isnt coming in and its all going out it cant sustain itself. Thats why the soviet union collapsed. All these stimulus checks help people but the best stimulus is opening up the economy. The govwrnment cant just keep handing out money and it definitely shouldnt be giving money overseas like this last stimulus check called for.
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The government can hand out as much money as it wants. There's nothing backing up the money, the entire system is based off imaginary money with debt to back it up. I had somebody a long time ago tell me banks are good because if I put $100 in the bank and somebody borrows it now I have $100, the bank has $100, and the person taking out the loan has $100. Couldn't get him to understand that no, there's still only $100 that's existing and all 3 cant have it at the same time.
The system we have is all based off debt. We're essentialy leasing currency that's privately owned so we can operate at a constant defecit. The only thing that gives the money any value is the government telling you it has value. That's a seperate issue than whats happening here, yeah, they need to open everything up. I don't want old people to die, but its absolutely insane to believe they shut down everything for this long over a strong cold bug that isn't very dangerous to healthy people in any age group.
That's the problem here. Do you really think they're doing all of this, launching constant media fear propaganda, making rules that any idiot can tell do nothing to prevent the spread of viruses, because of a virus that the vast majority of people show no symptoms of? Hard drinking 87 year olds can get it and not even notice? When elderly people with long lists of health problems don't normally get ventillators for bad pneumonia normally? That was the tell for me in the beginning. Anyone at a high risk of dying of covid would NORMALLY be denied life saving medical care if they got REGULAR pneumonia in a time when hospitals WEREN'T getting overrun?
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I will say i know some ppl who've gotten it and said it was just a sore throat. Then I know even younger ppl that said it was as bad as the flu. Either way I dont think its bad enough to shut down.
I tried to do my research into how banking works and I just gave up. Its very complex. Its based on IOUs through multiple banks through the country and so on. I dont get it. I have heard the argument that moving off the gold standard was a good idea. Theres smart ppl that argue that. Im not smart enough to form my own opinion on it but I can say I think giving free money away when you dont even have it to give away is bad.
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Im not a college graduate or anything. I just know having a currency backed by nothing has never worked long term at any point in history.
IOUs aren't money. There isn't enough money in bank vaults for everyone to take all their money out of the banks. There isn't even enough cash printed.
It doesn't take a smart person to know that's not a good system. Loaning money back and forth creates imaginary money that isn't availible if all of the people involved need the money at the same time.
300,000 deaths in the total of a couple of months and climbing. You Americans that dont take it seriously are truly deranged. Just admit your wrong and take this shit seriously there is a reason conservatives lost the presidency. It is clear a good chunk of the nation is awake to a growing problem.
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300,000 is pretty low percentage wise when you factor in just how contagious it is. Death rate is only 0.2% not worth destroying the country in my opini0n. But everyone has their own opinions on it.
America is fucked either way you guys are very stupid to allow your government to horde your tax money and convince you its bad to have sone of it given to you. Your right its insane how you people let your leaders send your tax dollars overseas.
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That money that they get from taxes is already spent when they get it. This year they did not get as much in revenue and they have already gave out more than 3 years of tax income for the whole country. Thats not sustainable.
BUT the EcOnOmY!! They're takin' our jerbs!
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Some ppl have houses and kids to feed.b you cant do that off 600 dollars coming in only twice a year