I'm not a supporter of it, but I can understand why some make that decision. It's a life changing decision no matter which way you go. I do have a problem with late term, just because you're no longer with the guy is not a good reason at the six month point. I also don't agree with the government paying for it. The makers should pay. This is a topic that is normally split pretty evenly and to force someone who doesn't believe it's right or has religious beliefs against it, to pay for it, is wrong. Personally there are too many people that can't have them or lose them accidentally for me to say; ahh this is not the right time so I think I'll throw this one away make another when I really want one. A little news you'll never really be financially ready. Try telling someone who lost one they're nothing special just make another, let me know what they said after you pick yourself up off the floor.
I can understand it sounds really unfair to make someone pay for it who is completely against it, but then if the government use that as a reason to prevent the public from paying for it, then people could complain about having to pay for a lot of things they're against. Some people are against vaccinations and operations based on their religious beliefs. They could claim discrimination if other people are exempted from paying for something based on their religious beliefs, but they're not just because their religious beliefs are less popular.
Like I believe killing animals is wrong and that the government shouldn't be funding grants to the beef farming industry with my taxes. But we live in a democracy so they shouldn't decide on that based on my opinion, it should be the larger public who decides. Besides there's no need for me to feel guilty about it anyway, my hands are tied and if I had the choice then I wouldn't pay them.
That's why I said it is split pretty equally across most countries. You even said the larger public, I agree if you can get 65 to 70% to agree then go that way. There are a lot of things individuals or even small percentage of people object to, however 51 to 49% is not justification for everyone to pay for it. It just starts a battle and never solves the issue, next time the other side is in control they want to change it back. That applies to most issues. In the USA, I feel they don't want to solve the issue they just want it as a political panic topic. I believe it's somewhere around 35 to 40% of countries allow it at least to some degree. Most all of them have limits. Most at 3 to 4 months with exceptions for life endangerment. Very few pay for it. Even some countries with national health care, it's not covered. It's treated like plastic surgery if it is medically necessary then it's covered.
Ok I think I see what what you mean now. So if the majority agree to it (even if it's just 51%) then it should be legalised, but the public should pay for it only if a much larger majority agree to it? That does seem to make sense, I think I might agree with that actually.
Kind of, I personally like to see it legalized or not with more than 51%. I'm of the mind there will always be abortions. If she really doesn't want it, there have always been way to many instances of brutal ways to cause abortion. Getting it done in a medical setting by medical personnel makes more sense, however I feel there should be limits. It should not be used as birth control or just a whim I woke up and baby daddy has split now I don't want this 6 or 8 month old growth in me any more. We have the morning after pill. As far as paying for it I really wish it was treated like plastic surgery, however even that is abused. A doctor once justified butt implants as medically necessary due to depression and self esteem. I believe if you need a paved lane to your house then you pay for it. If others are going to use it then they help, if it's going to be a lot of people or benefit the whole city or province then maybe they should do it, but even then they want the original owner to donate the property. If after an abortion the government paid for, you want the government to control what you do with that part of your body then by all means have at it. I think I'll keep control of mine.
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I'm not a supporter of it, but I can understand why some make that decision. It's a life changing decision no matter which way you go. I do have a problem with late term, just because you're no longer with the guy is not a good reason at the six month point. I also don't agree with the government paying for it. The makers should pay. This is a topic that is normally split pretty evenly and to force someone who doesn't believe it's right or has religious beliefs against it, to pay for it, is wrong. Personally there are too many people that can't have them or lose them accidentally for me to say; ahh this is not the right time so I think I'll throw this one away make another when I really want one. A little news you'll never really be financially ready. Try telling someone who lost one they're nothing special just make another, let me know what they said after you pick yourself up off the floor.
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I can understand it sounds really unfair to make someone pay for it who is completely against it, but then if the government use that as a reason to prevent the public from paying for it, then people could complain about having to pay for a lot of things they're against. Some people are against vaccinations and operations based on their religious beliefs. They could claim discrimination if other people are exempted from paying for something based on their religious beliefs, but they're not just because their religious beliefs are less popular.
Like I believe killing animals is wrong and that the government shouldn't be funding grants to the beef farming industry with my taxes. But we live in a democracy so they shouldn't decide on that based on my opinion, it should be the larger public who decides. Besides there's no need for me to feel guilty about it anyway, my hands are tied and if I had the choice then I wouldn't pay them.
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That's why I said it is split pretty equally across most countries. You even said the larger public, I agree if you can get 65 to 70% to agree then go that way. There are a lot of things individuals or even small percentage of people object to, however 51 to 49% is not justification for everyone to pay for it. It just starts a battle and never solves the issue, next time the other side is in control they want to change it back. That applies to most issues. In the USA, I feel they don't want to solve the issue they just want it as a political panic topic. I believe it's somewhere around 35 to 40% of countries allow it at least to some degree. Most all of them have limits. Most at 3 to 4 months with exceptions for life endangerment. Very few pay for it. Even some countries with national health care, it's not covered. It's treated like plastic surgery if it is medically necessary then it's covered.
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Ok I think I see what what you mean now. So if the majority agree to it (even if it's just 51%) then it should be legalised, but the public should pay for it only if a much larger majority agree to it? That does seem to make sense, I think I might agree with that actually.
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Kind of, I personally like to see it legalized or not with more than 51%. I'm of the mind there will always be abortions. If she really doesn't want it, there have always been way to many instances of brutal ways to cause abortion. Getting it done in a medical setting by medical personnel makes more sense, however I feel there should be limits. It should not be used as birth control or just a whim I woke up and baby daddy has split now I don't want this 6 or 8 month old growth in me any more. We have the morning after pill. As far as paying for it I really wish it was treated like plastic surgery, however even that is abused. A doctor once justified butt implants as medically necessary due to depression and self esteem. I believe if you need a paved lane to your house then you pay for it. If others are going to use it then they help, if it's going to be a lot of people or benefit the whole city or province then maybe they should do it, but even then they want the original owner to donate the property. If after an abortion the government paid for, you want the government to control what you do with that part of your body then by all means have at it. I think I'll keep control of mine.